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Crossing Myanmar with own car (Thailand -> India) in Aug or Sep 2014

  • nue_travell-
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    Hello to all the passionate travellers out there!
    My girlfriend and me plan to cross Myanmar with our own car in either August or September this year (2014) as part of our raod trip from Australia all the way back to Germany. According to our current knowledge crossing this beautiful country is not as difficult as it used to be. Mainly it is a matter of money. Since the government still charges high prices on entering with own cars (using a local licensed tour operator is mandatory). These costs can be reduced significantly if enough cars (people) can be found to join the group. We have found such a local licensed tour operator in Myanmar who can organize all kinds of tours with own cars in Myanmar but it is up to us to find other people who are interested in joining us (like I have said to make the high costs of such a tour organization affordable). We want to enter Myanmar coming from Thailand and travel on to India. If you are interested in joining us in the second half of August or in September please contact us: nue.travelling[AT]gmail[DOT]com - if anyone has information about other groups already planning something similar please let us know likewise!
    Kind regards,
    Enrico and Nadine

    #1 Posted: 30/5/2014 - 21:34

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  • nue_travell-
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    Hello to everyone.

    In the meantime we have found another tour operator (www.burmasenses.com
    ) who offers guided tours through Myanmar.
    The price per person for a group of 4 people would be 1080 USD excluding food and fuel.
    The more people, the cheaper of course.

    So setting up a group of three or more cars would make this trip much more affordable.
    If anyone is interested in crossing Myanmar from Thai to India in August or September this year please reply!
    Cheers,
    NuE

    #2 Posted: 18/6/2014 - 03:49

  • nue_travell-
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    UPDATE:
    According to our latest research the crossing is not as expensive as I / we thought it is.
    To quickly summarise:
    Next to the German guy Jörn Schlag whose latest price for an extensive trip through Myanmar was 2000 Euros (~ 2750 US$) per car (independent of the number of cars building the convoy) we already found three licensed travel agencies situated in Myanmar who offer crossings through Myanmar (all following prices are based on a four or five day crossing):
    1st was Tin Maung Shwe from www.brightviewtravel.com who basically provided the following prices (includes everything except of own fuel, any sight seeing and personal expenses): for 1 car / 2 pax : 2163 US$ per pax; for 2 cars / 4 pax : 1287 US$ (costs are getting cheaper the more people join the group)
    2nd was Thar Aye from www.burmasenses.com who offers the crossing as follows: for 1 car / 2 pax : 2000 US$ per pax; for 2 cars / 4 pax : 1060 US$ (costs are getting cheaper the more people join the group). Furthermore we found a
    3rd tour operator whose costs vary significant from those of Tin and Thar Aye:
    His name is Mutu Suresh from www.myanmarexperttours.com and who recommends a six day crossing due to the more difficult road situation on the rainy season for the following (costs are in total, NOT per person!):
    1 Person - 900 US$
    2 People - 1060 US$
    4 People - 1700 US$
    6 People - 2250 US$
    Includes three meals per day and five nights' accommodation. Not included as already mentioned above: own fuel, sightseeing entrance fees on the way, personal expenses and road tax (no more than 50 $US per vehicle).
    I was wondering how this high price difference is possible. But I only found few reviews only of people travelling with him (all were very satisfied with his work) and he assured me that no extra costs would apply (except the ones mentioned). If anyone can give any reviews about Mutu Suresh this would be very welcome!

    So far I found another couple with a 4WD who is willing to join us on the crossing. Furthermore I am waiting for the reply of two motor cyclists who also are interested in joining us.
    That means currently we are four, maybe six people who will do the crossing together. I requested another offer + itinerary for a six day crossing allowing for visiting Bagan and a seven day crossing allowing for Bagan and Mandalay.
    News will be posted.

    So far to our situation.
    Still looking for more people to join us!
    Since we are having travel delays the currently desired departure time (start time) for the crossing will be middle of September.

    Best regards to everyone,

    Enrico and Nadine
    www.nue-travelling.com

    #3 Posted: 29/6/2014 - 01:58

  • nue_travell-
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    Hello everyone.
    Anyone else interested in joining our group in September?
    Currently we will be 7 to 10 people.
    7 day crossing with one day stop in Bagan.
    Starting at Mae Sot (Thai) - Myawaddy (Myanmar)
    Finishing at Moreh (Myanmar) - Tamu (India) border
    Price: ~ 450 $US per person, excludes own fuel, lunch and dinner and private expanses but includes accommodation, tour operator fees, sight seeing entrance fees (Bagan and Phowin cave) and all government and administration fees
    More participants are welcome til middle of August when booking will be done.
    If anyone else has serious interest please contact me for further details.
    You need to have a Carnet de Passage, proper health insurance, a Myanmar visa and an India visa.

    Cheers,

    Enrico

    #4 Posted: 18/7/2014 - 00:35

  • nue_travell-
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    Hello everybody,

    Since I received several requests from other travellers about prices for the Myanmar crossing I like to provide an update. Most of the others who contacted me reported much higher prices provided by the different tour operators.
    Our tour operator also had to inform us about higher prices due to a miscalculation by himself (we are / were one of his first crossing groups while he used to only offer tours within Myanmar till now) and higher charges by the MTT. Furthermore I forgot to provide information about an additional cost charged by the Myanmar Roads and Traffic Department in my previous posts caused by a misunderstanding between me and Mutu.

    After some discussion we reached a compromise about the price which is still cheaper than what other travellers told me but more expensive than what we got told at the very beginning.

    For a group of six people we achieved a price of 3300 USD + 200 USD per vehicle (Myanmar Roads and Traffic Charge; for motorbikes it would by 100 USD). Dividing the costs equally it comes to 650 USD per person in our case.
    INCLUDED: all kinds of government permission fees, accommodation (mostly 2* or 3* hotels with private bathrooms, A/C), entrance fees for national parks en route and Bagan , tour operator costs
    EXCLUDED: own fuel, personal expenses, lunch and dinner
    Actually the tour operator wanted to charge us 3900 USD + MRTD charge instead of the 2700 USD we knew about at the beginning.
    But I believe that future requests for an offer of the same trip (7 day crossing with stop in Bagan an Phowin Caves) will result in at least 4500 USD for the trip (six people for this example).
    Nevertheless here is a feedback from another traveller who already finished their trip with Mutu (coming from India) which reads very well:
    https://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/forums/asia-south-east-asia-mainland/Myanmar/crossing-myanmar-from-india-to-thailand-in-august-2014?page=1#post_21475839

    We will also publish a report after we made it to India (we start our crossing at beginning of October)

    To summarize I just can recommend everyone who is interested in travelling and / or crossing Myanmar with their own cars to early start looking for other people interested in the same to join them and make the costs more affordable. Again here are names and websites of tour operators in Myanmar who offer such guided tours:
    - Tin Maung Shwe from brightviewtravel.com
    - Tar Aye from burmasenses.com
    - Mutu Suresh from myanmarexperttours.com

    Basically you can also contact every other travel agency in Mandalay or Yangon and ask if they offer such tours and can point you some other agency.

    #5 Posted: 10/9/2014 - 23:41

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