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  • jaam

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    I would appreciate some advice on getting from Battambang to Pattaya in August
    I imagine this is via Poipet. How difficult is it to get transport (buses or taxi) on the thai side of the border.
    Is there any difficulty getting Thai visa at this crossing and is it prone to the same scams that apparently happen going the other way?
    Thanks if you can help.

    #1 Posted: 15/7/2011 - 14:13

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    Check in with Mad Mac - Pattaya is his area of speciality. ;-)

    #2 Posted: 15/7/2011 - 14:57

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    What's Mad Mac?

    #3 Posted: 15/7/2011 - 15:04

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    Sorry - MM is a poster on TF who regularly recommends Pattaya. He'll catch up with this thread soon enough!

    I haven't done that crossing so can't offer specific advice. But from what I've read, you will be able to get a Thai visa at this border without any problem. Just note that if you are coming into Thailand overland, you only get a 15 day visa rather than the 30 days that you get when you arrive via air. I also don't believe you will have any problem getting transport - this is a well-trodden route so there will be plenty of transporters looking for business. I do believe there is a risk of 'scams' at this crossing so you do need to do your homework.

    There has been quite a bit posted about this previously so scout around on the forum. Also go to the Thailand page and there will probably be a link to visa info and border crossings.

    #4 Posted: 15/7/2011 - 15:10

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    I'm not a particular fan of Pattaya either Lizzie but I can tell you when I came through Poipet 2 weeks ago there was a dedicated van service going to Pattaya just after passing through the customs.I doubt whether OP will have to find it as if you stand for 2 minutes the tout will find you and the office is couple of metres away.From Battambang to the border is now less than 2 hours.So I imagine the whole journey takes around 6 hours.

    #5 Posted: 15/7/2011 - 16:02

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    Liz, I'm not the man in the know. First of all, I have only been to Pattaya twice and don't particularly like it. But it does offer some unique things. Secondly, I've never been to Cambodia nor it's border crossings. So no help there either. Sayadian appears to be the man on this one.

    #6 Posted: 15/7/2011 - 16:28

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    Madmac
    but she got a bite ;-)

    #7 Posted: 15/7/2011 - 16:59

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    She did. At least SOMEONE besides myself mentioned the place.

    #8 Posted: 15/7/2011 - 17:30

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    Mmm, I wonder if we can resurrect this debate by mentioning bars, bargirls,prostitution-OMG! Such things actually go on.
    Seriously I went there once with my son for 2 nights waiting for a flight back to UK and we enjoyed it.It's very low key unless you go to Walking Street, and the answer is yes we did.
    BTW I can't think of a bigger contrast than Battambang and Pattaya, it'll be a huge cultural shock.

    #9 Posted: 15/7/2011 - 18:42

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    Which, Battambang or Pattaya?

    #10 Posted: 15/7/2011 - 19:53

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    I think the Angelwitch in Patters is better than the one in BKK.

    #11 Posted: 15/7/2011 - 20:52

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    Put it this way Madmac.A certain lady friend of mine goes to Battambang when she wants to dry out and stop partying in Bangkok.
    Although it's the 2nd largest city in Cambodia it's got a sleepy scene.Everybody is in bed by 10p.m. although I haven't been there for a couple of years so I expect someone will correct me if it's changed.Then there was only one barang(farang) bar and the only girl in there was the owners wife.
    I suppose when it comes to culture shock it depends what you're looking for.Sure as hell you can't be into both places, can you?

    #12 Posted: 15/7/2011 - 22:28

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    Can't be in both places, but you can be comfortable in both places. I like where I am though, which is not Battambang (i.e. we have nightlife) but not Pattaya either (i.e. not insane).

    #13 Posted: 15/7/2011 - 22:57

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    Jaam didn't actually ask whether he/she should go from to Battambang or Pattaya, just how.

    And also inquired if they'd be going via Poipet. Can you get to Pattaya using the Pailin border crossing Sayadian?

    #14 Posted: 16/7/2011 - 01:23

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    SBE,
    GENERALLY speaking, when people ask how they get from point A to point B, it's because they are intending on going to point B.

    #15 Posted: 16/7/2011 - 01:36

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    GENERALLY speaking, when people ask how they get from point A to point B, it's because they are intending on going to point B.

    Indeed. And maybe they already did their research about the place, just need to know the logistics of getting there. Would explain why Jaam didn't ask what either place was like.

    @ Jaam. I've only done the Poipet crossing (and left via Ko Kong) but I've heard that the Pailin crossing is a bit less trying as far as scams are concerned. However fewer tourists use it so maybe it's not nearly as easy to get transport to Pattaya from the Thai side of the border. Maybe your GH in Battambang would know?

    #16 Posted: 16/7/2011 - 02:10

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    "Would explain why Jaam didn't ask what either place was like."

    Yep. A lot of people do go there. It's an extreme place in many regards. Not my style, but obviously for tens of thousands of others it's working.

    #17 Posted: 16/7/2011 - 02:16

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    I didn't know tens of thousands of people went to Battambang but hey, if it works for them....

    #18 Posted: 16/7/2011 - 03:05

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    speaking of which, i saw that these feature articles keep popping up on the main TF page. there is the one called Battambang weekend at http://www.travelfish.org/feature/216 and a Ko Samet vs. Pattaya one at http://www.travelfish.org/feature/167

    #19 Posted: 16/7/2011 - 03:20

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    Thanks for all your comments. And yes I have been to Pattaya before and was planning a few days of resort style hangout before returning to Australia via Bangkok. I had found lots of info about Pattaya to Poipet i.e. going into Cambodia but not the other way and wondered if there was a reason for this. I wasn't sure if their a Visa scams entering Thailand as there are entering Cambodia. I suppose it figures there probably is.

    #20 Posted: 16/7/2011 - 09:52

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    The first time I went to Pattaya I went to a resort on Jomtien and it was OK, but nothing special. The beach isn't all that, and the resort was adequate, but not luxrious. The second time, though, I booked a hotel for my mother, myself, my wife and daughter through AGODA. It was a five star hotel, and it was really five stars. Our rooms were spectacular, the infinity pool was my daughters dream, and the private beach was cleaned daily and quite nice (but small). It was magnificent and for three days we only paid 289 USD for the four of us. Pretty good. My wife and I went out one night, and yes, Beach Road was a sight to behold, hookers EVERYWHERE. Thousands of them. But lots of good restaraunts, we found a fun little bar... it was fun - for a night.

    #21 Posted: 16/7/2011 - 11:17

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    I know its a sight to behold, suppose that's what makes it interesting as you say for a night or two. So what is the name of the hotel where you stayed and was it very long ago. Have you had good experiences through these hotel booking agency's. We booked a hotel in London a couple of years ago 'Kensington Close' through bookin hotels.com and when we arrived and tried to check in they said we had no booking. In fact they said it had been cancelled by the agency despite the fact that we had paid a long time in advance. Well hotel didn't help much. We were to discover that company was going bust. We are now sceptical as although we got the original cost refunded through credit card people we did end up having to pay the rack rate which was much higher. Can be a dubious way of booking hotels I now feel.
    Oh yeah also did similar and thought I had booked a previously stayed at hotel in Phuket and arrived to find it was totally different hotel (similar name but all the pics were of the one I thought I had booked at). Don't think you can trust them. Some operate out of Turkey.

    #22 Posted: 16/7/2011 - 12:23

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    If you want to book your accom online ahead of time, I have used AsiaRooms and Agoda quite a few times (for rooms in Asia, NZ and US) and haven't ever had any problems. I always cross-reference the place I want to stay with reviews on TripAdvisor to get a general feel of the place.

    But just note that you may not always get the best deal that way, either. Sometimes you get a better rate off their website direct, or as a walk-in. There are times, though, when you just want to arrive and know that it's all sorted. If in doubt, book the first night or two, then extend if you want to carry on. I have often found that the hotel will extend at the same rate that I paid when booking through Agoda, etc.

    #23 Posted: 16/7/2011 - 12:33

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    'Can you get to Pattaya using the Pailin border crossing Sayadian?'

    Again let me stress I'm no expert on getting to Pattaya but I have done that crossing a couple of times and on arriving in Chantaburi heading for Bangkok they usually come up to me in the bus station and ask me if I'm looking for a bus to Pattaya and they have a dedicated Stop for the Pattaya bus so they must be plentiful.
    To digress a little-why is it I'm always asked if I'm going to Pattaya? Am I the only guy who doesn't go there?
    OK, to get back to the crossing from Pailin you take a moto to the border about 20 minutes.There's the usual casino but apart from that it's a quaint little crossing with the border defined by a little stream.On the Thai side I was asked for proof of onward travel but my multiple-entry Cambodian visa seemed to satisfy them.I have heard this is a scam involving buying tickets for a non-existant bus from the immigration officer if you haven't got proof but maybe someone can update this since I am going back over 18 months.On the Thai side it's the usual time warp as you take another motor (brand new, gleaming on a real road as opposed to the clapped out moto on laterite in Cambodia.)The ride is very short just up to the main road to catch the van to Chantaburi which is about 1 hour+ away. In Chantaburi you'll need another motorbike to take you to the bus station. From there I'm sure Pattaya can't be more than 3 hours+.

    #24 Posted: 16/7/2011 - 13:55

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    I didn't book until the day before. I had the receipt with me (I printed it when I booked) and I used AGODA, which is an established company. I got a huge discount (about 50%) by using AGODA. Go figure. I think the hotel was called the Royal Cliff or something like that. Anyway, that method worked for me personally really well.
    Staff were very couteous, although my wife was miffed when we returned at night and they told her that she had to show ID to get into the hotel first - as if she were a bar girl (and no, she doesn't look the part). But otherwise it was great. Small sample size applies.

    #25 Posted: 16/7/2011 - 15:04

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    BTW this girl is from Battambang:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi6aNW8dAlY

    I love these guys.

    #26 Posted: 16/7/2011 - 15:27

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    Glad there's something we can thoroughly agree on Madmac.To get a flavour of the better side of Khmer music I would recommend the track '22 days' on the first album.Battambang seems to have produced a fair amount of talented singers including Ros Sereysothea, one of the 60's Cambodian music scene inspired by American forces radio music broadcasts from Vietnam. 'Mol' of Dengue fever does a few copies of her songs. So what famous singers has Pattaya produced? :-)

    #27 Posted: 16/7/2011 - 18:09

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    Another one of my favorites, Ros Sereysothea. Whenever some idiot starts babbling to me about how we need a revolution back home my answer is Ros Sereysothea. God she and Sinn Sisamouith produced some great music.
    Pattaya doesn't produce much I'm afraid... Again, don't confuse me with a fan of Pattaya. I'm neither friend nor foe.

    #28 Posted: 16/7/2011 - 18:48

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    Omg you get so much more when you ask a question on this site ...
    So what is the overall consensus -I think I am confused. Palin crossing or poipet?
    thanks so much for your interest and willingness to reply.

    #29 Posted: 17/7/2011 - 17:31

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    Battambang to Pattaya via Pailin : they've paved the road I hear so can't be more than 2 hours.20 minutes to border, cross, hang around for motorbike, van then travel to Chantaburi 1+ hours then say 3 hrs max to Pattaya = 8hrs approx
    Battambang to Pattaya via Poipet: 2hours to Poipet an hour at the border and van waiting, 4+ hours to Pattaya =7 hours (Not much in it but take into account Poipet is a hole whilst Pailin is a nice trip through gorgeous scenery.)

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    Good job I interrupted the conversation about things Jaam probably isn't interested in knowing to inquire about the logistics of going via Pailin then isn't it!

    Have a good trip Jaam. ;-)

    #31 Posted: 17/7/2011 - 21:37

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    Jaam
    Do you like Ros Sereysothea?

    #32 Posted: 18/7/2011 - 00:42

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    To make it easy:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uld17Riu5w4

    #33 Posted: 18/7/2011 - 00:43

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    I like! I like!

    #34 Posted: 18/7/2011 - 09:28

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    Oh, I'm not talking about Pattaya. Except for the McDonald's.

    #35 Posted: 18/7/2011 - 09:30

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    Sorry NO I don't like it. I like Dean Martin.

    #36 Posted: 18/7/2011 - 11:28

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    Dean Martin? I was watching a youtube video of Willi Deville and there were 69 dislikes from Justin Bieber fans. Well, at least Dean Martin isn't Justin Bieber.

    Just FYI but Ros Seresothea was easily the most famous and accomplished singer to come out of Cambodia ever. There isn't even a close second. But everyone does have different tastes.

    #37 Posted: 18/7/2011 - 12:54

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    What's amazing is that all the young Cambodians know her work and love it.Unfortunately, because they dub it into their crass videos but how many kids in America would recognise the name 'Dean Martin'?

    #38 Posted: 18/7/2011 - 17:56

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    It's not a fair comparison Sayadian. Dean Martin wasn't ros Sereysothea. Ros is to Cambodia what Elvis was in the US. And everyone knows who Elvis was.

    #39 Posted: 18/7/2011 - 18:36

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    You mean Elvis Costello??

    #40 Posted: 18/7/2011 - 18:58

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    They also know Sin Sitamouth and Pen Ron.
    Poor old Sin Sitamouth so the story goes had a seat on the last heli out of PP but gallantly went back to pick up his mistress and of course the heli was airborne when he returned.I don't know if any of them survived.
    I have met Khong Nai but he was more of a traditionalist musician so maybe that helped him to survive.anyone with a hint of western decadence got the bullet

    In order to stay on thread I should add that I see at least one company running buses all the way from PP to Pailin now.

    #41 Posted: 18/7/2011 - 19:05

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    You know I love Elvis Costello. Alison is one of my favorite songs... but NO, I didn't mean Elvis Costello you knucklehead. Everyone's a comedian.

    #42 Posted: 18/7/2011 - 20:24

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    I'm sure I saw Elvis Presley alive and well when I visited Battambang.He's working as a cyclo driver.

    #43 Posted: 18/7/2011 - 21:54

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    I knew he was out there somewhere.

    #44 Posted: 18/7/2011 - 22:19

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    Well it seems that the Pailin Crossing is more direct from Battambang and maybe a bit more sedate (if I use that word). So thanks for the info. Generally you all seem to think if will clearer once in Battambang??

    #45 Posted: 19/7/2011 - 15:26

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    I did the BB to Pailin bit by shared taxi but now the road has been paved (apparently-updates please!) I should imagine there is a bus service because I know one of the bus companies in PP advertise PP to Pailin.Trying to remember which one.I doubt the bit from Pailin to border is paved yet as the casino is for Thais but the motobike only took 20 minutes.Don't be alarmed when he leaves the road at one point and heads for the tree line, he isn't about to rob you it's just a short cut they all use.

    #46 Posted: 19/7/2011 - 15:40

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    Some rather old trip reports here (the latest one dates from 2008 unfortunately) with a few possible scams mentioned so you can avoid them.

    Main thing you seem to need is an onward ticket but you'll have one as you're flying out of Suvarnabhumi a few days later.

    http://www.talesofasia.com/cambodia-overland-pailin-reports.htm

    #47 Posted: 19/7/2011 - 16:35

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    "Main thing you seem to need is an onward ticket but you'll have one as you're flying out of Suvarnabhumi a few days later."

    Are you sure this is correct SBE? I came across from Laos not long ago, and a bunch of people got tourist visas and they were transiting Thailand.

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    Different borders and different scams and Laos is not the same as Cambodia MM.

    Sayadian mentioned he was asked for proof on onward travel and so did people writing those trip reports.

    Another thing you might need is a passport photo and a PC of your passport Jaam. I saw someone mentioning this on TT. The OP says you can get these things at the border too mind you... you just have to fork out 100B for 4 passport photos.

    http://www.lonelyplanet.com/thorntree/thread.jspa?threadID=1964897

    #49 Posted: 19/7/2011 - 20:06

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    Scams for 100 baht are one thing but it's about time something was done about the thieving barstewards at the Koh Kong border who charge a whopping 1200 baht for a $20 visa, don't even mention the cost of a business one.1200 baht works out at around $40 at current rates meaning these cheats are pocketing $20 for every tourist who goes through that border.That's a mighty big scam!

    #50 Posted: 19/7/2011 - 23:20

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    "Different borders and different scams and Laos is not the same as Cambodia MM."

    Good point.

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