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the demise of sihanoukville

  • sayadian

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    Is anybody out there in Sihanoukville . I'd appreciate it if they could let me know the latest situation re: the beaches.Have there been anymore closures? I heard that Otres has been cleared and that Ocheateal would get the bulldozing treatment soon.The green fences will then go up and access denied.Very soon Sihanoukville will be a sea resort without a public beach,very sad for the guesthouses and vendors.Does anyone know the longterm plan for the town? Is it to be a casino resort for Asian tourists as I have heard?

    #1 Posted: 21/6/2009 - 20:56

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  • chaos23

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    what? they cloase all 6 or 7 beaches? don´t think so.

    why should the do that? as far as i know and have seen, there are some hotel buildings between victory and indepence, which do have private beaches after the finishing touches.

    so probably sokha and koh kos beach are access denied for the public.

    look at this map: http://www.canbypublications.com/maps/sihanoukville-map.htm
    Canby is the best source for actual travel related news in cambodia
    http://www.canbypublications.com/sihanoukville-cambodia/sihanoukville-beach.htm

    i can´t think of a reason why they should give the biggest reason away for a tourist to visit the south...

    #2 Posted: 28/6/2009 - 19:51

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    Where did you here about Otres? I've just done some searching and can't find anything about it being shut down. Yes, they're all on dodgy title and will go eventually, but I'd be surprised if it has all gone with little news about it.

    Likewise Ochheutal and Serendipity -- more complicated title there and I'd say it's unlikely to go in the immediate future -- but then, we are talking about Cambodia here, so who knows.

    #3 Posted: 29/6/2009 - 07:28

  • sayadian

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    First it was Sokha then Independence lost it's food vendors and gained a green fence.The 'mountain' end of Ocheateal had all the beachside vendors bulldozed out overnight and when I was there in March the 'mountain' end of Otres had all the businesses bulldozed and a fence has gone up here.There is nothing complicated re: title on Ocheateal, the leases are nearly up so I was wondering when it was going to come down.The Russians are moving in over the other side near Victory so I just wondered how long it will be before there is no public beach.
    What started me thinking was this quote from the Bayon Pearnik of this June
    'On Otres beach the majority of places have closed'

    #4 Posted: 29/6/2009 - 15:19

  • robmacca

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    Interesting what is being said about Sihanoukville. I was in Nha Trang last year. Went to Vinpearl - don't ask me why. The saddest assed place I've ever been to. And that skyway - not so much a blight on the landscape as an abortion. Lonely Planet says it all was built with Ukrainian money - make that Ukrainian Mafia money. You know the story - a little bribery goes a long way. If the Ruskies are moving in it's because they are bribing the KPP(Kampuchean People's Party). Expect tasteless concrete dunnys - think Moscow tenements on a bad day. Lots of Olgas and Ivans with BAD attitude. They will be closely followed by Russian prostitutes and ex KGB thugs - I kid you not. So much for globilisation

    #5 Posted: 4/8/2009 - 19:23

  • whiteelepha-
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    The sooner they bulldoze Sihanoukville the better as far as I'm concerned!

    #6 Posted: 4/8/2009 - 22:04

  • sinstone

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    So are the places on Otres still there?

    #7 Posted: 16/8/2009 - 20:53

  • SteinOfOran-
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    What is it with former communist citezens uglyfying the landscapes of other countries?

    Anyhow, anyone in Nha Trang needs to take a boat out past Vin Pearl, it gets much better.

    Let me set you straight on Otres (having just been there 2 weeks ago,) it is a ghost beach. The local and expat small time bungalow and resteraunt owners have destroyed it already. Gone are the open spaces, as crappy shanty style bunglaows have been erected from one end to the other. Also, it is no longer clean, way to go expats!

    #8 Posted: 19/8/2009 - 10:37

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