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So yes, I know this will not do South East Asia justice but we are foreign students studying in Beijing that don't have any time and we want to just do what we can. If you have time look over my brief itinerary for a second and let me know ANYTHING that could help! I appreciate anyone's comments and suggestions!
I am planning this kinda on my own so this website has been EXTREMELY helpful. We are students so we don't really care about poor conditions, money is tight but not to the point that we'll take a 3 day bus over a more expensive plane. If you have a specific place in any of these cities where WE CAN'T MISS then please tell me also!
Wed, June 10th -
Beijing -> Ho Chi Min City
fly, 1620 Yuan one way 8:20 PM- Arrive 2:00 AM
Stay in Ho Chi Min
Thur, June 11th-
Explore Ho Chi Min City
Jade Emperor Pagoda, Ancient Hindu Temples, Reunification Palace, War Museum and Ho Chi Min Monuments and museums galore.
Stay over night ho chi min
Fri, June 12th-
Bus from HCMC to Phnom Penh- 5 hours, $6
Stay overnight Phnom Penh, heard there's tons to do.
Sat, June 13th
Explore Phnom Penh
We can ride along the Mekong River, see the many temples, there's tons of history and independence monuments (read online), and See the killing fields (apparently amazing from Jonny) and the genocide museum.
Stay over night here.
Sun, June 14th
Take bus or boat to Siem Reap , 4 hours, a must see according to every site ive visited
Stay overnight in Siem Reap
Mon, June 15th Angkor Wat, a must see (right outside Siem Reap)
Built between 1113 and 1150 during the reign of King Suryavarman II, Angkor Wat took well over 30 years to complete and upon completion it was dedicated to the Hindu god Vishnu. It is a huge relic for people of Cambodia.
We can also shoot guns and bazookas for $6. Jonny said so.
Stay again in Siem Reap
Tues, June 16th
Flight from Siem Reap - Vientiane 10:00 AM, Arrive 1:00 PM
(I am trying not to do this because its $150 USD but it seems like theres no other way but a long bus ride. If you know how much the overnight bus and day bus are that would be helpful)
Stay Vientiane for the day/night
Wed, June 17th
Vientiane exploration!
Wat Si Muang (buddhist temples), Wat Sisaket (one of the only buildings left standing from the thai invasion, very holy), etc.
Stay again in Vientiane
Thurs, June 18th
Bus to Vang Vieng 4 hours
Stunning scenery, backpacker scene, AND TUBING DOWN THE RIVER FOR BARS down the Nam Song River, with the limestone mountains in the distance
Stay in Vang Vieng
Fri, June 19th
Caves, kayaking, rafting in Vang Vieng, rock climbing. The choices are endless.
Stay in Vang Vieng
Sat, June 20th
Bus back to Vientianne, 4 hours
Flight home through AirAsia, stopping overnight in Kuala Lumpur.
"Travel can be tiring
Your trip-plan may look great on a sheet of paper, but don't forget that travelling in Southeast Asia can be uncomfortable, hot and tiring. If you're travelling every other day -- particularly long distances -- you'll rapidly become tired and grumpy."
Did you notice that?
Further on it states:
"Be realistic
You're on holiday remember? Trying to see the Grand Palace, Wat Pho, Wat Arun, Wat Saket, The Teak Mansion, The National Museum, Jim Thompson's House and doing a khlong trip all in one day is insane -- yet people try and do it all the time."
Mmmmm!!!
I suggest you are spending way too much time in buses and planes, and waiting rooms, etc., and not nearly enough time actually seeing anything.
I doubt that you'd see anything like the places on your list for HCMC (Saigon) in one day - try FOUR DAYS!
A full day to get from Saigon to Phnom Penh.
In Phnom Penh, the 2 'genocide' museums (killing fields & torture), the National Museum & the Royal Palace needs ONE FULL day. If you also want to do more, that will be another day!
A day to get to Siem Reap!
The idea that visiting the Angkorian temples can be dome in one day is senseless. You travel for hours and hours, you get to an amazing World heritage place, and you spend only one day!!!! It takes at least 3 days of FULL TIME touring around the Angkorian Temples to see just a little part.
So, with the little time you've got, just FORGET LAOS!!!!
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So yes, I know this will not do South East Asia justice but we are foreign students studying in Beijing that don't have any time and we want to just do what we can. If you have time look over my brief itinerary for a second and let me know ANYTHING that could help! I appreciate anyone's comments and suggestions!
I am planning this kinda on my own so this website has been EXTREMELY helpful. We are students so we don't really care about poor conditions, money is tight but not to the point that we'll take a 3 day bus over a more expensive plane. If you have a specific place in any of these cities where WE CAN'T MISS then please tell me also!
Wed, June 10th -
Beijing -> Ho Chi Min City
fly, 1620 Yuan one way 8:20 PM- Arrive 2:00 AM
Stay in Ho Chi Min
Thur, June 11th-
Explore Ho Chi Min City
Jade Emperor Pagoda, Ancient Hindu Temples, Reunification Palace, War Museum and Ho Chi Min Monuments and museums galore.
Stay over night ho chi min
Fri, June 12th-
Bus from HCMC to Phnom Penh- 5 hours, $6
Stay overnight Phnom Penh, heard there's tons to do.
Sat, June 13th
Explore Phnom Penh
We can ride along the Mekong River, see the many temples, there's tons of history and independence monuments (read online), and See the killing fields (apparently amazing from Jonny) and the genocide museum.
Stay over night here.
Sun, June 14th
Take bus or boat to Siem Reap , 4 hours, a must see according to every site ive visited
Stay overnight in Siem Reap
Mon, June 15th
Angkor Wat, a must see (right outside Siem Reap)
Built between 1113 and 1150 during the reign of King Suryavarman II, Angkor Wat took well over 30 years to complete and upon completion it was dedicated to the Hindu god Vishnu. It is a huge relic for people of Cambodia.
We can also shoot guns and bazookas for $6. Jonny said so.
Stay again in Siem Reap
Tues, June 16th
Flight from Siem Reap - Vientiane 10:00 AM, Arrive 1:00 PM
(I am trying not to do this because its $150 USD but it seems like theres no other way but a long bus ride. If you know how much the overnight bus and day bus are that would be helpful)
Stay Vientiane for the day/night
Wed, June 17th
Vientiane exploration!
Wat Si Muang (buddhist temples), Wat Sisaket (one of the only buildings left standing from the thai invasion, very holy), etc.
Stay again in Vientiane
Thurs, June 18th
Bus to Vang Vieng 4 hours
Stunning scenery, backpacker scene, AND TUBING DOWN THE RIVER FOR BARS down the Nam Song River, with the limestone mountains in the distance
Stay in Vang Vieng
Fri, June 19th
Caves, kayaking, rafting in Vang Vieng, rock climbing. The choices are endless.
Stay in Vang Vieng
Sat, June 20th
Bus back to Vientianne, 4 hours
Flight home through AirAsia, stopping overnight in Kuala Lumpur.
Sun, June 21st
Arrive Beijing.
#1 Posted: 11/5/2009 - 23:26
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ktb690
I want to be frank?
I think you are stark raving mad.
Now that I've upset you, let me explain.
FIRST:
Elsewhere on Travelfish, there are 'guides' to planning travel. Start by looking at:
http://www.travelfish.org/travel-planning/less-is-more
In the middle of that 'page' is:
"Travel can be tiring
Your trip-plan may look great on a sheet of paper, but don't forget that travelling in Southeast Asia can be uncomfortable, hot and tiring. If you're travelling every other day -- particularly long distances -- you'll rapidly become tired and grumpy."
Did you notice that?
Further on it states:
"Be realistic
You're on holiday remember? Trying to see the Grand Palace, Wat Pho, Wat Arun, Wat Saket, The Teak Mansion, The National Museum, Jim Thompson's House and doing a khlong trip all in one day is insane -- yet people try and do it all the time."
Mmmmm!!!
I suggest you are spending way too much time in buses and planes, and waiting rooms, etc., and not nearly enough time actually seeing anything.
From the page I gave you, now go look at:
http://www.travelfish.org/travel-planning/dont-over-plan
- - - -
SECOND.
I doubt that you'd see anything like the places on your list for HCMC (Saigon) in one day - try FOUR DAYS!
A full day to get from Saigon to Phnom Penh.
In Phnom Penh, the 2 'genocide' museums (killing fields & torture), the National Museum & the Royal Palace needs ONE FULL day. If you also want to do more, that will be another day!
A day to get to Siem Reap!
The idea that visiting the Angkorian temples can be dome in one day is senseless. You travel for hours and hours, you get to an amazing World heritage place, and you spend only one day!!!! It takes at least 3 days of FULL TIME touring around the Angkorian Temples to see just a little part.
So, with the little time you've got, just FORGET LAOS!!!!
Cheers
#2 Posted: 12/5/2009 - 14:37
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