This is my first longer trip and I´m looking for feedback and suggestions/recommendations for my itinerary in SEA trip next JAN-MAY.
This board has been very helpful for planning my trip and I have found a lot of answers to my questions but I still hope to have some info from more experienced backpackers.
Here is a preliminary plan for my route:
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I´m flying with my friends from Tampere, Finland to London and from there to Kuala Lumpur.
I´d like feedback to my itinerary and recommendations places outside my plan.
Budget I had in mind is about 20€/30$ a day excluding flights. I think that should be enough.
#1 janime has been a member since 19/10/2009. Posts: 8
I've just embedded your map -- should make it easier for people to visualise -- looks like a great trip -- and I do have some suggestions, but I'm making dinner right now!
Will post later tonight or tommorrow.
You know you can link to Travelfish for all those Wiki links... ;-)
Looks a LOT better now!
I´ll work with those links later ;)
#3 janime has been a member since 19/10/2009. Posts: 8
It would help if you listed your preferences - what you hope to see, what you hope to experience, things you like to do, things you don't like.
#4 MADMAC has been a member since 6/6/2009. Posts: 6,957
What I like and want to do.
-Take a diving course somewhere on the route(I have no previous experience) Any suggestions(I have been thinking Gili Trawangan or Ko Lipe)?
-Nature and animals
-To meet other people. Backpackers and maybe locals too.
Main thing is to relax and keep low budget (20€ a day), excluding the divecourse and flights.
I don´t have anything specific that don´t want to see or experience. Maybe avoid expensive and most crowded package tourist places. I know I might have those too on my itinerary ;)
Just looking here for new ideas and your recommendations where to go and what to see or not to see.
#5 janime has been a member since 19/10/2009. Posts: 8
Something about timetables.
Arrive to KL 14.1.2010
5-6 weeks in Thailand
2-3 weeks in Laos
2-3 weeks in Cambodzia
Flight from Bangkok to Denpasar 23.3.2010
2-4 weeks in Bali and Gilis
4-6 weeks in Singapore, Malaysia and maybe Sumatra.
#6 janime has been a member since 19/10/2009. Posts: 8
Are you a man or a woman? Are you romantically involved if you are a man. Very few man plan to spend four months on vacation anywhere and be celibate. That has to be fatored into your budget. Also, do you drink? This is a beer drinking place if there ever was one. Another budget eater.
#7 MADMAC has been a member since 6/6/2009. Posts: 6,957
I´m a man. And in a relationship. My girlfriend will travel with me. And I drink too, but not too often.
#8 janime has been a member since 19/10/2009. Posts: 8
So the woman issue is taken care of. That will cost or save - I'm not sure - but it's a decided issue at any rate.
Don't drink too much. Good. That's a money safer too.
Based on what you've written that itinerary looks good to me. You have a lot of time, not too many stops (so you're not rushing around), has some flexibility in it... I think you've got it well planned out. I assume you are planning on flying the "long legs" of the trip?
#9 MADMAC has been a member since 6/6/2009. Posts: 6,957
Yes, we have bought two flights, Bangkok-Denpasar and Denpasar-Singpore. Rest of it will be travelled by land or sea.
#10 janime has been a member since 19/10/2009. Posts: 8
What about the Laos to Cambodia leg? It looks like your last city is Vientiane and then you go from there to Cambodia. That's a LONG WAY by bus - there ain't no rail. That's a multi-day trip.
I presume (although the map outline doesn't show it) that you will be going from Cambodia to southern Thailand by sea. I assume you've checked this out already and that's feasible (I honestly don't know) because again, if that's overland, that's a multi day trip as well.
#11 MADMAC has been a member since 6/6/2009. Posts: 6,957
Oh, and is your budget for you AND your girlfriend? That's a bit tight in my opinion. But 20 Euro each - should be fine, excluding travel costs.
It's hard to tell from your map, but it looks like your first stop in Northern Thailand from Bangkok to Chiang Mai - which should be fine by bus or rail.
#12 MADMAC has been a member since 6/6/2009. Posts: 6,957
Also I've heard Singapore is pretty pricey - but I've never been there.
#13 MADMAC has been a member since 6/6/2009. Posts: 6,957
There is two stops between Vientiane and Cambodia. Pakse and Si Phan Don. If you zoom the map you will see them.
In Thailand we will stop also in Auytthaya on the way to Chiang Mai for a day or two, maybe somewhere else too. Still waiting for recommendations.
From Cambodia we´ll go back to Bangkok and fly from there to Denpasar.
Budget is 20€ each.
Yes Singapore might be more expensive but we are going to stay there just a few days.
#14 janime has been a member since 19/10/2009. Posts: 8
If you take the river from Kampong Cham to Kratie, there is a nice temple on the way called Han Jay. I have made the trip by the small blue motor boats in Kampong Cham, it was about $15 round trip and the boat can hold 3 or 4 people easily. Fun way to see the river as well. Koh Bine over the bamboo bridge in Kampong Cham is worth a couple of hours--very pretty island. Also, about 25 minutes along the road to Suong from KC is a rubber tree plantation. I was surprised how pretty it was. There are better rubber tree plantations but that one is close.
These are pretty relaxing/let's you experience nature plus a little bit of Khmer culture.
#16 candyman has been a member since 20/10/2009. Posts: 20
DAMN! I just lost my reply!
Here's the abridged version:
It's a well touristed trail you're doing so you'll have no problem meeting other travellers.
Consider the weather and diving conditions when you decide where to do your PADI cert Bali will be wet at the time you're there, Lipe should be fine, another option is Ko Tao north of Ko Pha Ngan
Ways to get off the trail:
Consider stopping at Tha Khaek (between Vientiane and Pakse) and tripping out to Konglor cave
There's stacks to do between Bangkok and Chiang Mai: Here is a primer
More islands? here are some on teh SW coast
Your budget sounds ok to me.
Cheers -- looks like a fun trip!
someone else's photos of Konglor cave: