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  • suebroome

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    Hello. Travelling to Bangkok with teenage daughter in April and would like to stay in a hotel that has signed up to protect children from trafficking or prostitution. Have searched endlessly, but can only find one or two top price places and we are on a 2,000thb budget per night. thanks for your help. Sue

    #1 Posted: 9/3/2012 - 12:17

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  • MADMAC

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    Never heard of such a thing. What does that mean "signed up" with whom?

    #2 Posted: 9/3/2012 - 12:33

  • altmtl

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    Sounds like a scam Ms Sue, just find a cheap hotel somewhere, there are many that do not support sex tourism, but the reality is, you won't be "saving anyone" by getting conned into a scam like that, just filling the hotel's pocket.

    #3 Posted: 9/3/2012 - 18:29

  • busylizzy

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    I haven't heard of anything like this either. However, if after doing a big more research that you decide it IS a scam as suggested above, I would make a point of not going to the two hotels that have identified for trying to win business in that way.

    #4 Posted: 9/3/2012 - 18:37

  • captainbkk

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    There are 3000+ hotels or places to stay here in BKK-maybe by now 4000+. In Cambodia this is an issue-though IMHO much more in the minds of those who set up such a scheme as for those who it might concern. As competition is so intense- hotels grab any chance to distinguish themselves a little from others-and if this wins customers of overworried mums with teenage daughters-then why not give it a try?
    I for myself think it is much more disgraceful that such 17/18 yrs old western girls walk around as naked as they can-like on a beach. And sometimes really do not seem to understand that every now and then they are refused service in a respectful Thai place just because of that.
    Oh-april? Ever heard of songkran? I do hope for you that that wet T-shirt competition may include your stay.

    #5 Posted: 9/3/2012 - 20:30

  • caseyprich

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    Settle down there captainbkk - I don't think that is a very appropriate response to the question that was asked. If you would like to rant about tourist behavior you can always start your own thread rather than hijack a perfectly appropriate one. If you would like to suggest that a visitor respect local customs I'd suggest you do it in a less accusatory way.

    #6 Posted: 9/3/2012 - 21:41

  • busylizzy

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    Inappropriateness - it's a common them with captainbkk.

    #7 Posted: 9/3/2012 - 23:25

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    @busylizzy - "inappropriate" ...hmmm I think that is an understatement. I haven't seen a useful post from captainbkk yet. Condescending, rude, judgemental...yes. Useful...nope.

    #8 Posted: 10/3/2012 - 01:07

  • MADMAC

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    "I for myself think it is much more disgraceful that such 17/18 yrs old western girls walk around as naked as they can-like on a beach."

    Strange, this doesn't bother me at all.

    #9 Posted: 10/3/2012 - 05:45

  • suebroome

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    Thanks everyone for taking the trouble to reply, didn't mean to cause a diplomatic crisis or question the dress-sense of teenagers who look fab in bikinis!

    It was a genuine query. ECPAT(exploitation of child prostitutes and trafficking) I think it's called. And if a hotel has signed up to train it's staff to be aware of (say) men walking up to their room with (say) young girls who don't appear to be their daughters...it seems like a genuinely good idea. It won't end it but that's no reason not to try don't you think?

    Thanks anyway (from a bikini clad Mum and her teenage 15 yr old) who by wearing beachwear are not suggesting they should be sexually assaulted. Freedom for beachwear!

    #10 Posted: 12/3/2012 - 08:12

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  • MADMAC

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    Sue
    It obviously hasn't gotten much traction here (since none of us living here have ever heard of it). I can't say I am surprised. Most people living here just don't care about issues like under age prostitution. It's just not on the radar. In the western world we look at things, particularly on this issue, in a fundamentally different way.

    #11 Posted: 12/3/2012 - 11:46

  • busylizzy

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    Sue - agree it's a nice concept, and if it's legit, then that's a bonus. (Let us know if you find out more). My point was that I'd hate to be supporting a hotel (or any other business) falsely riding on the tail of a good cause.

    No worries about the 'diplomatic crisis'. It's just all part of the good-natured bantering that goes on here. Captainbkk is a new poster that, well, hasn't always played nicely with his comments.

    Hope you and your daughter enjoy your trip!

    #12 Posted: 12/3/2012 - 14:55

  • Thomas922

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    Suk11 Hostel has a lot of women there and they don't allow outside female guests. There are tons of others that are anti-prostitution but this is Thailand.......even a place signed up for what you say means absolutely nothing to a security guard given a 500 baht tip.

    If your daughter is going to be in Thailand and SE Asia having a talk with her about the fact that she will be seeing older men and younger women may be in the cards. Not all the younger women you see will be underage and most of the people you report that to could care less. I was just at my local mall in the states and many older men 40 plus were there with younger girls from teens to twenties. No one questions anything. Many of them are different races so who is who? Step dads? uncles? Friends? I see many with girls clearly (or maybe )not their daughter and they have no resemblence to each other. But when we go to Asia we make assumptions of age and behavior. (Not directed at you Suebroome). I am just saying that going to SE Asia just don't assume everything you see isn't kosher, remember you are not at home, and enjoy your trip.

    #13 Posted: 12/3/2012 - 21:23

  • MADMAC

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    Thomas
    I once was with my 5 year old daughter here in town where we live when a young anglo woman came up to be and said "What are you doing with that little girl?" She had a very aggressive tone. It was beyond obnoxious. It takes a lot for me to want to hit a woman, but she was working overtime to bring out that reaction in me. I just turned and walked away with my little girl. You're right, there is no way to determine said relationships, and assuming a guy is a pedophile is a huge mistake.

    #14 Posted: 13/3/2012 - 01:02

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