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Ko Kradan Paradise Lost - How to contact Wally?!

  • Bigsterrules

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    Hi there does anyone know how to contact Wally? I have emailed to info@kokradan.com but had no reply for a couple of weeks and tried calling on 0066-09-5872409 (as per the Paradise Lost website) and on 0066-089-5872409 (as per Travelfish). Both numbers seem to be disconnected

    Hopefully this doesnt mean that Wally has evetually sold up!

    Thanks for your help

    #1 Posted: 28/8/2009 - 15:28

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  • SBE

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    The number I have on my phone is the same as the TF one. I hope he's OK as he wasn't very well when I saw him a couple of years ago. Try again omitting a 0 if you're calling from abroad.

    eg.

    0066-89-5872409

    If that doesn't work, try asking the Seabreeze cafe/travel agency in Trang. They had his number last time I was there and they would probably know if the resort is still open or not.

    These are the contact details given on their website.

    Tel: 0066 89 973 3034 , 0066 86 686 5855
    Email : seabreezetours@hotmail.com

    #2 Posted: 28/8/2009 - 15:57

  • Bigsterrules

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    Excellent, thanks. I'll call them and see what the latest is with Wally

    #3 Posted: 30/8/2009 - 23:28

  • Bigsterrules

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    I have just spoken to Wally - he is fine and well and taking bookings - great news!!

    #4 Posted: 31/8/2009 - 18:46

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    Glad to hear he still alive and kicking!

    #5 Posted: 31/8/2009 - 19:20

  • tezza

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    I dunno if this will help others, but Karoolsie on TT just gave some contact info on Wally.

    "I was there in June. He is not too keen on E.mail Cell: 0895872409 Also (0066) 09567 2409 But he said that must regulars make bookings with a SMS."

    #6 Posted: 1/9/2009 - 16:17

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    Bigsterrules -- did you use SBE's nos or the ones just in from tezza? lemme know which so I can update the listings.

    tks

    #7 Posted: 1/9/2009 - 16:20

  • furneburner

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    I tried to book with Wally a month or so ago, but got turned off when they wanted to charge 1200 baht for a fan room.

    Moreover, I called them first then passed the phone to my thai GF. When we enquired to the price Wallys wife (?) asked "two farang?" as if it makes a friggin difference.

    Therefore i am under the impression they practice two tier pricing seeing as all the prices i have seen for fan and private bathroom at paradise lost were under 1200 baht...

    #8 Posted: 7/9/2009 - 17:09

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    There aren't any A/C rooms at Paradise Lost. They had a couple of big fan bungalows with ensuite bathrooms which were posher than the others they'd almost finished building more when I was there. The price for these "posh" bungalows was about 1000B-1200B if I remember right. The "two farangs" comment could have been because one farang pays slightly less than two farangs. I was there on my own and got a discount anyway.

    The prices at Paradise Lost are a bit steep for what you get, both for accommodation and food, though the food is pretty good with big "American size" portions.

    The only other resort on the island is the Paradise Resort on the main beach and the food there wasn't that great judging by the number of clients who came to eat at Wally's.

    The Paradise Resort had recently changed owners when I was last there so things may be different now, but their rooms used to be slightly cheaper than what Wally was charging. I had a look at them once ... I'd describe them as "basic", but I've seen a lot worse on my travels.

    #9 Posted: 7/9/2009 - 18:00

  • furneburner

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    I ended up booking at the kradan beach resort in a longhouse for 950...its only for 3 nights and i spose i wont be in the room much anyways...and i can always stop in at wally's and eat!

    With regards to the two-tiered pricing it was my GF who suggested that..

    Whilst the reviews have been average at kradan beach resort i think they have changed for the better as of late...

    #10 Posted: 7/9/2009 - 18:23

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  • tezza

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    3 relative newies:

    Kalume Kradan Village - www.kalumekradan.com

    Seven Seas Resort - http://www.sevenseasresorts.com/ (mega-flash)

    Kradan Island Resort - this place emphasised on its website it was NOT Kradan Beach Resort/Ko Kradan Paradise renamed again. But its website won't open right now although Google can find some booking sites listing it.

    #11 Posted: 7/9/2009 - 19:04

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    That first one looks rather cool and it's very affordable too! Thanks for that tezza, first I've heard of these new places. I think I may well try and check Kalume Kradan Village out in a couple of months!

    Wally has some got serious competition now methinks...

    #12 Posted: 7/9/2009 - 19:44

  • Jarrod

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    Hi ,this is my first post.Has anyone had contact with Wally recently,iv
    been ringing the number provided and it does ring but then goes on to some type of recorded message.I sailed with Wally about ten years ago from Phi Phi with four mates.Wally is a true gent, and i would like to see him again,this time though on my honeymoon.

    I would be grateful if anyone could help me get in contact with him to book for three nights in Jan.
    Thanks Jarrod

    #13 Posted: 3/11/2009 - 01:53

  • tezza

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    Jarrod, maybe you could contact Brian, the Aussie runs Mookies at nearby Ko Muk. Brian is also an ex-yachtie (actually I think he still does a few cruises around the area) and a mate of Wally - he may know Wall's current health status.
    Google should be able to find a contact number. Mookies was a bar with some permanent tents for travellers when I passed thru, but I heard Brian has put in some bungalows. When I visited, the bar was a very laid back place with a bunch of interesting regulars plus blow-thrus like me.

    #14 Posted: 3/11/2009 - 07:55

  • boleslav

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    had the same problem with the answering machine, but eventually got through and talked to Wally in person on Sept 26th. He asked that I send him a SMS with my requested days and then I got a reply from him from this number: +668958724091200 with the confirmation
    good luck

    #15 Posted: 4/11/2009 - 21:45

  • Jarrod

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    Great news ,finally got a text back today from Wally.Sounds like he's in fine form and have booked for Jan.

    Thanks Tezza boleslav for your replys

    #16 Posted: 5/11/2009 - 00:20

  • tezza

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    Jarrod, if you have time, could you give us a short trip-report on Wally's and Kradan after your visit? I haven't been there for at least 2 years, would love an update - I'm going to try to visit come June.

    #17 Posted: 5/11/2009 - 18:14

  • Jarrod

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    Sure i will post a trip report on Wallys and Kradan ,no problem.

    #18 Posted: 8/11/2009 - 17:35

  • boleslav

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    Just back from Paradise lost, spent a week there, loved it.
    This is the phone number for Wally: +66-89 587 2409, either call him, the connection is bad sometimes or send him a text message, he does not have internet hooked up, so do not send him an email.
    Wally will reserve the space for you and his reservation system is reliable(I booked in September for December stay,had our bungalow ready for us no problems)

    #19 Posted: 15/12/2009 - 19:06

  • Kitemare

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    I have visited KoKradan quite a few times during the past 8 years and this Island is a true gem in the Andaman Sea.
    I am planning a visit again in January but am getting unsure because of what I saw last time I was there...
    A new resort (SevenSeas?) was being built where the old Paradise Beach had their old restaurant and scrap yard. Another new resort (think it was called CoCoHut) was also in construction further up the beach.
    As I read the posts on Tezza and Travelfish I get the impression that even more resorts are being built and I am afraid that this tranquil island is being “ruined”.
    Is there anybody that could give me a picture of how many resorts there are on KoKradan today and where they are located?
    Thank you all

    #20 Posted: 18/12/2009 - 05:35

  • boleslav

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    just got back from Ko Kradan, stayed at Paradise lost
    will try to recall the resorts on the islands, from the south :left from the national park HQ- unfinished, unused concrete huts, then Amari resort for day trippers, Kradan Beach resort,Seven Seas,Kalume resort, resort with some finished and some unfinished huts

    #21 Posted: 18/12/2009 - 13:17

  • Kitemare

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    Thank you boleslav, your explanation is perfect. No big changes since I was there 1,5 year ago then :-)
    Was Kalume just next to Seven Seas or is it further up the beach, 5 min walk, were the beach is even more narrow (high tide) than outside SevenSeas?

    Thanks again

    #22 Posted: 18/12/2009 - 18:59

  • boleslav

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    I did not pay attention too much as I did not stay there and spent most of the time on the south beach behind paradise lost, but you can send Kalume email they were good in replying

    #23 Posted: 19/12/2009 - 03:50

  • Bigsterrules

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    Hi there

    We stayed at Kradan Beach resort - I thought it was overpriced for the room provided (2nd row hut) at 1600 THB a night. the beds were comfortable, but the bathroom with the hosepipe shower wasnt great. Food was good though and quite reasonably priced. The Seven Seas also does a 220THB menu - worth a look, but dont buy beer there - its twice the price of KBR!

    We walked through the jungle to see Wally - his place looks good. The only downside may be that you dont have the benefit of the beach to relax on in the evenings. You can walk to the beach in the dark, but you'd need a good torch and be mindful of any snakes!

    Unfortunately though the west facing beach had been swept away by a couple of big storms. Wally seems confident that by Jan/Feb the beach will have returned... The East facing beach was beautiful though - long white sands, perfect. It would have been nice though to have been able to watch the sunset on the west beach.

    What was the weather like in December? We were there in the last week in November and we mostly had overcast skies with a reasonable amount of rain!

    Cheers

    #24 Posted: 25/12/2009 - 23:20

  • boleslav

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    the weather in the beginning of December was very nice, blue skies, a bit hazy once we were looking toward the islands like Ko Ma, Ko Ngai.
    The beach situation did not bother us as we preferred to spend the time
    in the water anyway. We liked the fact Wally's place is quite secluded.

    #25 Posted: 26/12/2009 - 01:59

  • zls

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    Hello,

    when trying to confirm our booking (from months ago), a phone call to Wally arrived at a Thai call-back service. "Press 2 for English" only led to some announcement in Thai. Does anyone know what's going on at Paradise lost?

    BTW, the 095 672 409 number definitely leads nowhere.

    #26 Posted: 25/9/2010 - 18:40

  • tezza

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    I stayed at Wally's in June. He gave me a card and I lost it. Duh.

    A guy called Tito gave me this info a while back:
    To reach him from the United States, you dial 011-66 as usual, and then 89-5872409. I could not connect using 9, 09 or 089 as a prefix. Finally succeeded with 89.


    Now if that doesn't work I'd Google KK Travel in Trang which is very reliable and see if they can book you in.
    You could also try Googling MOOKIES BAR on Ko Muk. Brian the owner is a personal friend of Wally and will have the number. He rang him while I was there.


    #27 Posted: 26/9/2010 - 09:24

  • zls

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    Thanks, tezza.

    I do have his card, together with one of his red-and-white flyers. The number his card gives is (0066)095872409 and I get "no such number" on this.
    The number on the flyer is the most promising, given as 089-5872409 and leads to the Thai gibberish - at least for the moment.
    I've sent a mail to KK Travel and have jotted down Brian's number, but if anyone has recently been on the island, I'd be grateful for any news.

    #28 Posted: 26/9/2010 - 20:03

  • zls

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    Just to say that I reached the great man on this number: +66-89-5872 409. He's alive!

    #29 Posted: 27/9/2010 - 15:12

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    zls - "Thai gibberish" ?!

    #30 Posted: 27/9/2010 - 23:25

  • zls

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    Tennouji: at least to me - I don't speak the language. Maybe Wally's number hits the call-back service when he can't be reached. I didn't ask when I spoke to him as the connection was very bad and we had a hard time getting the most important bits across.

    #31 Posted: 28/9/2010 - 13:10

  • tezza

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    Nice to know you got thru. Say hello to Wally from me when you get there. Hey, I was the only guest in June - as a matter of fact the only guest on the whole island as far as I could see. Exclusive or what?

    #32 Posted: 29/9/2010 - 19:24

  • Rebakdawn

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    As of August 2011 you make reservation online at: kohkradan@yahoo.com or telephone: [url=tel:0895872409]0895872409[/url] and also on [url=tel:0873898408]0873898408[/url]. Cheers Dawn

    #33 Posted: 8/8/2011 - 13:03

  • Drew84

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    this looks just like the kind of secluded place away from everything i've been looking for... any idea what he's gonna charge for a bungalow on the beach with a couple small beds for 2 people? how bad is the weather in late aug/early sept?

    anyone got any other suggestions for places similar to this for a budget minded backpacker lookin for somewhere a bit more rustic and quiet?

    #34 Posted: 9/8/2011 - 04:59

  • Rebakdawn

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    Hello Drew, there are not any places open on the beach at Koh Kradan at the moment (only Sevenseas resort 5000.00THB per night, so not a backpacker place)Wally, at Paradise Lost is open all year. Koh Kradan at the moment is clear blue skies and no rain. Dawn.

    #35 Posted: 9/8/2011 - 14:16

  • zls

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    Rebak, I tried the E-Mail - so far no reply for 24 hrs. Has anyone had success with this?

    #36 Posted: 9/8/2011 - 14:30

  • Rebakdawn

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    Hello Zis, please resubmit your email as it has not been received.
    kohkradan@yahoo.com

    #37 Posted: 10/8/2011 - 07:39

  • zls

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    Very happy to report that e-Mail to Wally does work! Ah, makes it sooo much easier....

    #38 Posted: 10/8/2011 - 12:26

  • kokradan

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    @zls: Ko Kradan has got the elettricity (by generators) and mobile phone. But No Internet. I'm the webmaster of Wally's website Paradise Lost.
    It's simple for booking: just call him or send a sms (I suggest to use SkypeOut if you are abroad)
    From Abroad: 0066 – 89 – 5872409
    From Thailand: 089 – 5872409

    paradiselost_kokradan_wally450.jpg

    #39 Posted: 2/9/2011 - 06:07

  • Rebakdawn

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    Hi KohKradan. Wally and PARADISE LOST has WIFI since the 5th August 2011, I installed it.

    Please call or email Wally to Verify.


    TELEPHONE: 0066 895872409. or 0066873898408.


    BOOKINGS: kohkradan@yahoo.com


    WALLY: wallysanger@yahoo.com


    I'm sure he would be greatfull if you could add his booking email address to his website.

    Thank you

    #40 Posted: 2/9/2011 - 07:33

  • boleslav

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    yep, the wifi is working
    I would not rely on his emails too much, sms is more reliable.
    if you do not get an answer try again.
    met couple of people who sent an email, did not get any reply but assumed they have the reservation, wrong.

    #41 Posted: 9/12/2011 - 13:17

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