Posted by somtam2000 on 17/10/2010 at 22:25 admin
First up, my apologies that what was supposed to be a two hour Saturday-morning interruption to your coffee slurping turned into a two day delay-plagued upgrade.
So this is the new Travelfish and let this become the bug thread!
Let's start with the "things Stuart still has to do"
a) The background pattern doesn't line up properly
Yes I know, and quite obviously you should cancel your trip right now. Next week.
b) You can subscribe to forum discussions, but they don't show in the Member Centre
c) Where has the FAQ section gone?
It's being moved into the forum ... next week.
d) The Indonesia section has nothing ... NOTHING!
Ahh That's because I haven't added it yet. We'll be adding coverage to Solo, Yogya and some of Bali, you guessed it, next week. Hey at least the pics are good!
Moving onto what we have done:
a) Generally looks kind of alright.
b) There is a mobile site. Check out the site with your iPhone or iPodTouch (same URL) and you'll see what I mean. (At the moment it is only gauged to Apple devices, but we'll work to expand it to others down the track).
c) Bigger guesthouse photos. This will roll over over time, see the accommodation listings in Hanoi for an example.
d) You can comment on more stuff -- sights, transport and, as before, accommodation.
e) Finally, yes Finally, S & B can edit their posts (and everyone else for that matter).
f) Fully integrated with Instapaper -- if you don't know what that is, Goolge them -- very cool tool for reading stuff.
g) There's more, but I'm tired and I'll do a proper post about all this tomorrow.
I hate the critters! Please post all your bugs (and I am expecting quite a few) below. The more information you give, the more helpful it will be to me to sort it out. (That's code for comments like "Your site is broke" are not much use.)
Lastly, thanks to all the Travelfish members who threw their ten baht coins at me with a note attached suggesting a way the site could be improved. Some of the suggestions we've implemented came in quite a while ago -- so there you go, we didn't ignore you!
Cheers & thanks
Stuart & Sam
#1 somtam2000 has been a member since 21/1/2004. Location: Indonesia. Posts: 8,062
Posted by exacto on 18/10/2010 at 01:14
congratulations! the new site looks fantastic! there are quite a few excellent new features too.
i'm looking but afraid i haven't found any bugs yet. i'll be sure to let you know if i find any. is there a contest with a free Travelfish 2.0 t-shirt for the person who identifies the most bugs?
#2 exacto has been a member since 12/2/2006. Location: United States. Posts: 2,814
Posted by 5acrefarmer on 18/10/2010 at 04:50
Congrats! A nice surprise to go with my Monday morning coffee.
A suggestion that is site related but not a fault due to the change. Wouldn't it be best to use the local currency when quoting prices? Not all of us think in US Dollars and I am guessing a 30,000 Kip room costs 30,000 Kip regardless of the ups and downs of the US Dollar.
The current surge of the Australian Dollar (or plummet of the US Dollar) for example does change things a lot.
Great Website !
#3 5acrefarmer has been a member since 10/6/2009. Location: Australia. Posts: 61
Posted by swag on 18/10/2010 at 05:12
Hi Somtam great effort. Just noticed in the members area that certain links are overlapping e.g guides etc. Love all the pics rolling through
#4 swag has been a member since 28/3/2007. Location: Australia. Posts: 331
Posted by caseyprich on 18/10/2010 at 06:40
Everything looks great. Love that you've made it really easy to click on all the maps you provide - that was the first thing that brought me to Travelfish all those many years ago - my Laos map search.
Updated and looking good.
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Posted by busylizzy on 18/10/2010 at 06:57
SBE, where are you?? The sarong dance and Bintang bribe (almost one year ago!) finally paid off - we have an EDIT button!!
(Hmmm.... between the edit AND the preview buttons, I have no more excuses for my typos now.)
Well done, Somtam - it's looking awesome! You deserve a pat on the back - and an afternoon off in the hammock. :-)
EDIT: And the edit button actually works - yay!
#6 busylizzy has been a member since 31/12/2007. Location: New Zealand. Posts: 2,152
Posted by somtam2000 on 18/10/2010 at 08:14 admin
@exacto - we'll be doing something with the tshirts shortly...
@5acrefarmer - generally we list the price in whatever currency the guesthouse does. So in Laos some list their prices in kip, others in dollars or baht. Likewise here in Bali, some are in rupiah others in dollars.
@swag can you tell me what browser you're using please? Looking forward to a couple of beers before you hit the Gilis...
@casey some more good map stuff on the way. I haven't added all the new stuff yet what
@lizzy SBE is currently holding up a hammock somewhere in southern Sulawesi - am sure we'll be hearing from her when she returns to civilisation. Yes, the edit works. No more excuses :)
#7 somtam2000 has been a member since 21/1/2004. Location: Indonesia. Posts: 8,062
Posted by swag on 18/10/2010 at 11:38
Somtam, now I realise, I am at work and they are still running the old IE6 I think it is.Cheapskates that's probably the reason. Yes a couple of beers will be great.
#8 swag has been a member since 28/3/2007. Location: Australia. Posts: 331
Posted by caseyprich on 18/10/2010 at 20:06
I'll admit that I check the message board probably once a day - but I miss the longer string of messages on the front page. I feel like there are usually more threads running at any given time and the current string on the front page only allows for the very most recent conversations to be on display outside of the particular forum. For me, the longer string of topics meant I might miss a day and still see every topic that was up, while if I missed two or three days I was probably missing some conversation that sank below the string. Now, I feel like if I miss a day I'll have missed some entire conversations.
just a thought. i should probably focus on my job anyway.
#9 caseyprich has been a member since 3/3/2010. Location: China. Posts: 1,281
Posted by savorygal on 19/10/2010 at 01:55
love the new site.
I am having trouble with the guides section. I enter all info, hit "bake it" and nothing happens. My library gallery remains empty.
Agree with casey: I liked the longer list of threads on the home page.
#10 savorygal has been a member since 16/7/2010. Posts: 176
Posted by busylizzy on 19/10/2010 at 02:45
"just a thought. i should probably focus on my job anyway."
Ha! That probably applies to MOST of us!! :-)
I find that when you edit a post, extra lines appear to be inserted in between each paragraph (when viewing in the preview mode) but when you save, all blank lines are removed and all paragraphs run into one. (As has occurred in this post.)
In preview mode, it appears nicely laid out; when I save it, it all runs together. If I insert extra lines between paragraphs (in preview mode), they are removed when I save.
#11 busylizzy has been a member since 31/12/2007. Location: New Zealand. Posts: 2,152
Posted by somtam2000 on 19/10/2010 at 05:59 admin
The double spacing thing is weird and I'm not seeing it. Will try on more browsers later today. Please, when reporting a bug, let me know what browser and platform you're on -- for example: "Windows XP, Internet Explorer 7" -- makes it easier for me to reproduce the problem.
Re the links going bad (re CaptainBob) that's on my list - again it is not always happening.
Forum list on front page. I have a fix for that that should be good, hopefully done today.
Also will look at the Bake button not baking. Strange - again works for me!
#12 somtam2000 has been a member since 21/1/2004. Location: Indonesia. Posts: 8,062
Posted by busylizzy on 19/10/2010 at 06:27
I just tried the Baking - it's not working for either me in Chrome 6 or IE8. I've checked my library but the aren't there. (The ones that I did when testing earlier are still there though)
#13 busylizzy has been a member since 31/12/2007. Location: New Zealand. Posts: 2,152
Posted by busylizzy on 19/10/2010 at 06:29
I was using Chrome 6 when having the paragraph problem.
I am now using IE8 and will see what happens here in this post when I do an edit.
EDIT: adding a new paragraph to see what happens.
EDIT2: obviously it's a problem in IE8 as well.
#14 busylizzy has been a member since 31/12/2007. Location: New Zealand. Posts: 2,152
Posted by somtam2000 on 19/10/2010 at 09:26 admin
Pleas try the build guide feature again and let me know if you still have problems with it.
Trying out the para graph problem. chiang mai and ko phi phi.
#15 somtam2000 has been a member since 21/1/2004. Location: Indonesia. Posts: 8,062
Posted by busylizzy on 19/10/2010 at 09:37
The guides worked perfectly this time (in Chrome and IE).
I stumbled another something else though....(another low priority thing for your list though):
I just randomly picked a place (Boun Neua), created the guide and had a quick scroll through. Noticed that there lots of blank pages with headers only (ie Accom, Eat and Meet, Sights, Transport). After a quick check on the main website, it's presumably because this info doesn't exist for this area. Would be good to not produce the page if there is no info to print (regardless of whether or not it's selected).
#16 busylizzy has been a member since 31/12/2007. Location: New Zealand. Posts: 2,152
Posted by eastwest on 19/10/2010 at 12:57
Great work on the site. It looks very slick and easy to use
2 points from my side:
- In my last post (Cambodia, Saigon and Siem Reap) it showed the URLs for the names of towns instead of the underlined names. In preview it looked fine though
- Related to my current post. Is it possible to enable "copy&paste"? This is the second time I write this (I mean this actual piece of text). The first time I realised I wasn't logged in and wanted to copy but alas, and lost my text. May be that I'm just silly and missed a way to work around the use of the right button.
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Posted by savorygal on 19/10/2010 at 20:51
I've successfully baked a guide. Very slick. Love this new feature. thanks!
#18 savorygal has been a member since 16/7/2010. Posts: 176
Posted by christay2009 on 20/10/2010 at 04:51
the new site is eye openingly good. very professional...not like the last one :)
#19 christay2009 has been a member since 8/2/2009. Location: China. Posts: 415
Posted by caseyprich on 20/10/2010 at 09:32
Minor Point: I'd like to see more 'new/current' thread conversations on the front page. I don't usually go to look in individual forums when I come but often just stop by to check out what conversations are ongoing - with 15 up I feel like a lot of conversations slip away before they are fulfilled - sometimes a couple days will go by with a 0 reply, and then something comes through - the earlier setup seemed to allow more shelf life for these things.
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Posted by somtam2000 on 20/10/2010 at 16:54 admin
@casey, yup am aware of this one - it is happening hapharardly - looking at it tomorrow - tks!
#22 somtam2000 has been a member since 21/1/2004. Location: Indonesia. Posts: 8,062
Posted by somtam2000 on 21/10/2010 at 21:08 admin
I'm thinking/hoping that the link coding problem is fixed now. Am keeping an eye on it though.
Please bear in mind that it is a simple system (home baked) and twisting and cavorting back and forward in the preview/edit screens will probably have things go a bit askew.
Homepage post list
Now 30 posts are shown (unless you're on iPhone in which case is still 15)
Blank pages in PDF guides
@eastwest - can you tell me what browser you use please, 'cause you shouldn't be able to type in the box if you;re not logged in.
Ok, I'm now off to mix myself a serious G&T ;-)
#23 somtam2000 has been a member since 21/1/2004. Location: Indonesia. Posts: 8,062
Posted by AjarnPasa on 21/10/2010 at 22:00
Nice job dude.
Bug 1: smilies return a broken pic link icon
Bug 2: Thai script not rendered. e.g. สวัสดี
All that gobbledygook should read 'sawatdee' in Thai script.
Using Chrome with Windows Vista
#24 AjarnPasa has been a member since 26/5/2010. Location: Thailand. Posts: 27
Posted by somtam2000 on 21/10/2010 at 22:14 admin
OK, it works again. BUT will only work in the Thai language forum (I've disabled the link thingamagig in that forum as that is what is caning the Thai script). The downside of this is you'll probably get some whacky links.
For now, we can't have fancy links and Thai script, soo will need to work around that for now.
Smilies I'll look at tomorrow.
#25 somtam2000 has been a member since 21/1/2004. Location: Indonesia. Posts: 8,062
Posted by busylizzy on 22/10/2010 at 02:11
Three more things for you to look at (I'm using Chrome):
1. If I want to reply to a post, and I log in at the bottom of the thread, I am redirected to the Home Page once I have logged in. It used to be that I would remain in the current thread.
2. Eastwest is correct - the Your Reply box is enabled before you log in.
3. I noticed on an old post of mine that the formatting has converted to HTML code. (It looked fine at the time I posted it, but seems to have gone haywire days after the event, presumably related to some other change). Post is (#7) . The only formatting I had originally was some italics I think. (Possibly related to changes you made for Thai script?)
#26 busylizzy has been a member since 31/12/2007. Location: New Zealand. Posts: 2,152
Posted by somtam2000 on 22/10/2010 at 07:08 admin
As you'll see I've removed some of the formatting tools.
The text box should now be disabled if you're not logged in.
Some posts using colour tags, like the one referenced by lizzy above, will now look funny. I'll fix them. Don't use the colour tag anymore.
Broken smilies - looking into it.
#28 somtam2000 has been a member since 21/1/2004. Location: Indonesia. Posts: 8,062
Posted by Archmichael on 22/10/2010 at 08:15
Well, Stuart, you've set yourself quite a task here, no?
Thanks for bringing back the message board summary to the home page, btw; I liked that feature of the old site.
This must quite the pain in your posterior just now, but the site looks great. Thanks for taking on the renovation!
#29 Archmichael has been a member since 23/7/2008. Location: Global Village. Posts: 395
Posted by somtam2000 on 23/10/2010 at 07:21 admin
@archmichael Thanks - glad you like the revised site. Always expect some teething probs - hopefully will settle down soon! :)
#30 somtam2000 has been a member since 21/1/2004. Location: Indonesia. Posts: 8,062
Posted by Archmichael on 23/10/2010 at 08:56
#31 Archmichael has been a member since 23/7/2008. Location: Global Village. Posts: 395
Posted by travellingsarah on 23/10/2010 at 12:48 TF writer
I've got the same problem as busylizzy's first one: when I log in when in a thread it takes me to the home forum page for the forum I'm looking at (in other words, if I'm looking at a thread from the Vietnam forum it takes me to the Vietnam forum home page). I then have to re-find the thread I wanted to reply to. It used to keep me on the thread page. I'm on Internet Explorer (no idea what version), Windows XP.
#32 travellingsarah has been a member since 23/3/2010. Location: Vietnam. Posts: 684
Posted by eastwest on 23/10/2010 at 13:07
silly thing is that I don't know which version I use. Just bought a new laptop with windows 7. I guess it's IE 8. Couldn't find it so quickly.
Saw a few posts back that you have sorted it and I tried it and it worked (wasn't able to write). Thanks and great work in general.
Also have the same as busylizzy and sarah regarding being taken back to forum home page
#33 eastwest has been a member since 17/12/2009. Posts: 778
Posted by Carlton on 23/10/2010 at 15:42
Just joined and don't know any better. To me this site is great and I appreciate everything you're doing. Travelfish.org is #1!
#34 Carlton has been a member since 23/10/2010. Location: United States. Posts: 1
Posted by swatral on 26/10/2010 at 04:08
There is a bug with trying to subscribe to the Travel with kids forum through RRS feeds - says this page can't be found when you click on the RRS icon
#35 swatral has been a member since 1/9/2009. Location: Australia. Posts: 16
Posted by swatral on 26/10/2010 at 04:11
Same for the Trip Reports RRS feed and Travel Deals
#36 swatral has been a member since 1/9/2009. Location: Australia. Posts: 16
Posted by somtam2000 on 26/10/2010 at 09:46 admin
@Carlton - Thanks!
@swatral - those RSS feeds are fixed now. Thanks
#37 somtam2000 has been a member since 21/1/2004. Location: Indonesia. Posts: 8,062
Posted by DLuek on 27/10/2010 at 03:24 TF writer
New site looks fantastic... bravo!
#38 DLuek has been a member since 19/6/2008. Location: Thailand. Posts: 1,344
Posted by 5acrefarmer on 27/10/2010 at 12:08
As someone fairly new to the site, I often find myself reading some good information and then wondering how I stumbled onto it. I just realised that a lot of very good travel advice is 'hidden' away on the 'stories' page. Information about Malaria for example is important advice but not really a story. A lot of the information on the stories page could possibly be better positioned on the 'planning' page or elsewhere.
#39 5acrefarmer has been a member since 10/6/2009. Location: Australia. Posts: 61
Posted by oscarcat on 1/11/2010 at 16:51
I am greatly impressed with the new site, and the old site was pretty impressive to begin with! One personal bugbear for me - is it not possible to have hyperlinks open in a new tab rather than the existing one. At the moment I always right click and manually select open in new tab but I do get annoyed when I forget then lose the thread I was reading (I realise I can just get it back by pressing, well BACK I suppose). What does everyone else think? Just me then....I'll get me coat...
#40 oscarcat has been a member since 11/11/2008. Location: Cambodia. Posts: 66
Posted by travellingsarah on 1/11/2010 at 19:49 TF writer
Yes, I agree. It would be great if they could open in another window.
#41 travellingsarah has been a member since 23/3/2010. Location: Vietnam. Posts: 684
Posted by 5acrefarmer on 2/11/2010 at 05:39
Important point. All websites should want to keep their visitors connected and not drift away via a link that opens in the same window.
#42 5acrefarmer has been a member since 10/6/2009. Location: Australia. Posts: 61
Posted by somtam2000 on 2/11/2010 at 07:06 admin
@5acrefarmer re the hidden stuff. The especially useful/popular stuff will become more obvious. Am adding the new design one stage at a time so that I can keep on top of bugs etc.
Re the links opening in a new window. That's a personal preference on my behalf - if I want something in a new window, I use the right click, I don't like the automatic open in a new window approach. So sorry, but you'll need to keep using that right click button :)
#43 somtam2000 has been a member since 21/1/2004. Location: Indonesia. Posts: 8,062
Posted by ElaineMcG on 26/11/2010 at 19:39
Random question but think this is the right place to post it..... One thing that has really been frustrating me since I've joined the site is the fact that on all my posts underneath my user name it shows up that I am a longtail driver HOW CAN I CHANGE THIS, I've been trying but have been unsuccessful?????
I'm easily annoyed eh but your help would be greatly appreciated for me to overcome this somewhat minor problem!!!
#44 ElaineMcG has been a member since 16/11/2010. Posts: 10
Posted by Archmichael on 26/11/2010 at 21:38
Elaine: The titles that appear under peoples' names is a function of how many posts you've made. As you make more posts, the title changes. In your case, you've already "graduated" from Newbie to Longtail Driver.
PS: as you may already know, a longtail is a type of boat.
#45 Archmichael has been a member since 23/7/2008. Location: Global Village. Posts: 395
Posted by busylizzy on 27/11/2010 at 05:14
Just wait until you get enough posts to become the 'noodle lady'! I had to keep posting just so that I could move on from that one! :-)
#46 busylizzy has been a member since 31/12/2007. Location: New Zealand. Posts: 2,152
Posted by Archmichael on 28/11/2010 at 04:25
And what's wrong with noodle ladies, I might ask ?
#47 Archmichael has been a member since 23/7/2008. Location: Global Village. Posts: 395
Posted by ElaineMcG on 29/11/2010 at 09:52
Ah well now that I've got that cleared up I can let it stop annoying me and I'll look forward to posting more in order to get my new "title"!!!
#48 ElaineMcG has been a member since 16/11/2010. Posts: 10
Posted by busylizzy on 29/11/2010 at 10:01
And what's wrong with noodle ladies, I might ask ?
There's absolutely nothing wrong with noodle ladies. I've met some very nice noodle ladies. I like noodle ladies, especially ones that make nice noodles. It just didn't feel right being called a noodle lady, even though my noodles aren't too bad. 'Beach bum' might be more appropriate! Actually, I like exacto's tag: 'under-employed'! Maybe I should be 'under-travelled'. :-)
#49 busylizzy has been a member since 31/12/2007. Location: New Zealand. Posts: 2,152
Posted by yourvegasway on 9/12/2010 at 13:26
why not put register upper to the top to encourage more people become a user?
#50 yourvegasway has been a member since 9/12/2010. Posts: 1
Posted by Archmichael on 9/12/2010 at 23:02
I would never demean noodle ladies ...
"Under-travelled" - there you go. Perhaps mine would be Better Late Than Never.
#51 Archmichael has been a member since 23/7/2008. Location: Global Village. Posts: 395
Posted by caseyprich on 22/12/2010 at 09:03
when i try to type Don Khon g it breaks of the g and forces it to link to Don Khon - just a note . . . as you can see
#52 caseyprich has been a member since 3/3/2010. Location: China. Posts: 1,281
Posted by cybervlad on 28/12/2010 at 21:53
Have just found a bug.
On the page:
there is "photo gallery" block on the left. But whe i try to click either on the image or on "view gallery" link i got "lost in space" page :)
#53 cybervlad has been a member since 6/6/2007. Location: Thailand. Posts: 184
Posted by savorygal on 30/12/2010 at 13:28
hi somtam, thanks for the great site. the info here has been invaluable.
links for posters websites seem to be broken, mine included. see below
#55 savorygal has been a member since 16/7/2010. Posts: 176
Posted by somtam2000 on 3/1/2011 at 16:10 admin
@savorygal - thanks!
Add http:// to the start of the website address in the member profile bit and it should work out ok.
#56 somtam2000 has been a member since 21/1/2004. Location: Indonesia. Posts: 8,062
Posted by LeChron on 8/1/2011 at 04:44
I've just joined so I dont know the difference, but i'd just like to say what a great site very user friendly and all the info I need under one roof......pats on the back all round for the travelfish crew!!
thanks guys, all your work is really appreciated!
LeChron ; )
#57 LeChron has been a member since 7/1/2011. Location: United Kingdom. Posts: 45
Posted by waynel on 9/1/2011 at 21:27
The new site looks great Stu! congrats
#58 waynel has been a member since 24/6/2010. Posts: 1
Posted by Captain_Bob on 24/1/2011 at 19:37
Two requests please
1. Keep me logged in longer. It gets a bit annoying when I've been writing up a response which might take more than a few minutes (or get interrupted midstream, kettle boils, go to the bog, make coffee, etc and have to come back to my desktop later) only to submit it and find out I'm no longer logged in (argh!) and have effectively lost my work. How about lengthening the timeout metre to something like 1 hour?
2. Automatically open links in new browser window like most sites, so I don't "intuitively" close the window to find I'm right back at the desktop. I think you'll find most users expect new windows to be spawned when clicking url links, not effectively leaving Travelfish.
Cheers if you'll consider these changes.
#59 Captain_Bob has been a member since 27/5/2006. Location: Thailand. Posts: 1,955
Posted by somtam2000 on 26/1/2011 at 14:44 admin
Strange as the timeout is currently set to an hour. I'll test it later tonight.
Regarding the open in a new window, you can just right click on a link to open in a new window :)
@LeChron and Wayne - thanks!
#60 somtam2000 has been a member since 21/1/2004. Location: Indonesia. Posts: 8,062
Posted by eastwest on 1/2/2011 at 15:06
I don't know if it's my browser or something else but the 2nd horizontal (button)bar is a bit screwed up.
It used to be fine but since roughly a week or so the graphics are simply times new roman and the buttons do not appear as such.
When I move the cursor over 1 of the buttons it becomes a vertical button bar. I can still click and choose but it's a bit strange.
Haven't tested it in depth and it's most likely just cosmetics.
I'm using IE8 and also previously when I didn't have that "problem"
#61 eastwest has been a member since 17/12/2009. Posts: 778
Posted by travellingsarah on 2/2/2011 at 12:54 TF writer
I'm having the same problem as eastwest and also use IE8. Plus the left column (I don't know what it's called) has dissapeared.
#62 travellingsarah has been a member since 23/3/2010. Location: Vietnam. Posts: 684
Posted by eastwest on 4/2/2011 at 17:08
I see that my latest point has been repaired. Thanks for that. Don't know (obviously) if it works for Sarah as well.
#63 eastwest has been a member since 17/12/2009. Posts: 778
Posted by somtam2000 on 4/2/2011 at 18:47 admin
Yup fixed them the other day -- was being caused by the small AirAsia ad that used to be at the end of the toolbar.
Tks for bringing it to my attention :)
#64 somtam2000 has been a member since 21/1/2004. Location: Indonesia. Posts: 8,062
Posted by SBE on 18/3/2011 at 17:33
I see there's heaps of space for more buttons at the top of the "post messages" box...is there any chance of a photo button so we can put pictures in our posts without having to post them elsewhere and put in a link? It's a bit laborious doing it that way.
Reason: I'd like to post an underwater picture of a very weird looking fish I saw recently ... I've tried looking online but can't find anything that looks like it. I'm pretty sure it's some kind of surgeon fish but it's got a face that makes it look like the fish version of elephant man. Bit hard to describe in words. Thought that maybe someone in the diving branch might be able to ID it if they could see it.
Other people might find it useful to illustrate posts with pics of places they've been etc too.
#65 SBE has been a member since 14/4/2008. Location: Global Village. Posts: 2,055
Posted by travellingsarah on 3/5/2011 at 20:39 TF writer
I don't know whether this is a Travelfish bug or a browser bug, but I can't use the browser BACK button whilst on the site. This has been an issue for ages but never really bothered me as I just go back to HOME. But I've been using the search function and, once I've read an item from the search results, want to get back to the results to see what else has come up but I can't. So I end up going back to HOME and typing my search term in again. Sorry, if this has been raised before.
#66 travellingsarah has been a member since 23/3/2010. Location: Vietnam. Posts: 684
Posted by y8gamesfriv on 5/5/2011 at 17:10
okay, i think i may have found one. i was logged into the member center. love the listing of forum threads to which i've recently contributed by the way. on that topic, i think i just passed from somtam seller to under-employed. should i be concerned?
anyway, under the "my comments" area is a listing of the 15 or so hotel reviews i made during the last trip. the info says that i can edit those reviews by clicking on the name of the property. but when i click, nothing happens and i get the "error on page" message in the lower left corner.
hope that is useful for you. cheers.
#67 y8gamesfriv has been a member since 5/5/2011. Posts: 1
Posted by eastwest on 5/5/2011 at 19:25
Not really a bug and perhaps it has been requested before:
When I try to login and make a mistake (yeah, I'm getting older) the error-page doesn't give me an opportunity to try again. You're immediately assuming that something terrible is wrong and I have to click the back-button. Normally websites let you try immediately again on that error-page.
Could be that you did it intentionally but I don't see the reason why.
#68 eastwest has been a member since 17/12/2009. Posts: 778
Posted by SBE on 17/5/2011 at 17:35
On my computer screen the top of the forum has a white band under the private messages bit which makes it very hard to see the writing saying "private messages".
Also there's a grammar mistake when you send messages. "A messages" is not proper English!
#69 SBE has been a member since 14/4/2008. Location: Global Village. Posts: 2,055
Posted by jackytan on 2/6/2011 at 17:18
i am jacky tan, a new comer for this travelfish site, i would love to read and never mind to participate some kind faire disscusion
#70 jackytan has been a member since 2/6/2011. Posts: 2
Posted by crazyhorse on 13/6/2011 at 07:15
Can I ask questions about sri lanka on forum site . New site looks good
#71 crazyhorse has been a member since 15/11/2008. Posts: 7
Posted by gracetandil on 17/6/2011 at 18:25
OK, thanks for this blog as it is necessary. I am thinking about going back to South East Asia so I am "studying" again!!!!!!!!! hahhaha Great site!!! Love and hugs from Argentina.
#72 gracetandil has been a member since 4/12/2008. Posts: 56
Posted by SBE on 4/8/2011 at 16:22
When spam gets deleted all the spammed threads stay put. There are loads of really old posts on the home page at the moment and all the more recent threads get buried.
Probably easily fixed, just a question of adding random commas and slashes to the code I expect. ;-)
#73 SBE has been a member since 14/4/2008. Location: Global Village. Posts: 2,055
Posted by SBE on 4/8/2011 at 16:27
And the reposting bug when you hit the go back button hasn't been fixed either.
#74 SBE has been a member since 14/4/2008. Location: Global Village. Posts: 2,055
Posted by somtam2000 on 5/8/2011 at 13:44 admin
Don't use the back button :)
The spam message thing isn't an easy fix unfortunately, and won't be changed in the near future. On the upside most of the spam gets caught so you don't see it at all!
#75 somtam2000 has been a member since 21/1/2004. Location: Indonesia. Posts: 8,062
Posted by busylizzy on 6/8/2011 at 16:38
After this current spammer made 114 posts, reactivating old threads, are you sure you can't reconsider that?? Good grief - we have no way of finding the threads that contain the more recent legit posts now.
Maybe you can build in some logic that doesn't allow someone to post more than 5 posts in a 10 minute period, or similar.
#76 busylizzy has been a member since 31/12/2007. Location: New Zealand. Posts: 2,152
Posted by KirstyB on 11/8/2011 at 00:33
Since the problem with the forum on the home page a few days ago, when using the mobile site it only displays the past 4 threads whereas previously there were a pageful of them. Not sure if this is deliberate or something that's still pending a fix but I do prefer being able to see more recent posts at a glance if it's possible.
Also what's with all the motorbikes in Vietnam posts - is that a spam thing too or just a lot of very keen riders?!
#77 KirstyB has been a member since 27/7/2008. Location: Global Village. Posts: 152
Posted by somtam2000 on 11/8/2011 at 05:24 admin
@KirstyB Mobile site back to 15 :)
Problems are continuing - we've blocked all traffic from China (temporarily) while try and deal with what they are doing. Hopefully should have it nutted out today -- apologies for the hassle - especially if you're in China!
#78 somtam2000 has been a member since 21/1/2004. Location: Indonesia. Posts: 8,062
Posted by SBE on 11/8/2011 at 06:11
Only a tiny number of TF users are going to be interested in buying/selling a motorbike at any given moment yet that's what the motorbike forum mostly gets used for (especially by users posting from Vietnam). It's bloody annoying and of no interest to the majority of TF users.
Can't the motorbike part of forum be strictly limited to talking about road trips, suggested routes etc? Why are motorbike owners allowed to use TF as a free small ad service to buy and sell motorbikes? I have a used camera and an an old guidebook I don't need ... can I use TF to flog them?
Newspapers make people pay for personal ads....can't TF do that too for all these people selling motorbikes and keep all ads out of the main forum? Anyone looking to buy a bike could easily look at a dedicated "bikes wanted and for sale" section and it would be easier for buyers to compare what's on offer too.
#79 SBE has been a member since 14/4/2008. Location: Global Village. Posts: 2,055
Posted by somtam2000 on 11/8/2011 at 06:33 admin
@SBE yeah - we've been talking about this for a while (not not allowing them, but keeping them off the front page). Will take a look once things settle down.
#80 somtam2000 has been a member since 21/1/2004. Location: Indonesia. Posts: 8,062
Posted by busylizzy on 11/8/2011 at 06:53
I agree with SBE on this - the influx of motorbike for sale posts is getting bloody annoying!. At minimum, they should be restrained to the motorbike forum. Or create a new 'For Sale / Wanted' sub-forum somewhere where they can sell the bikes, and SBE can sell her old guidebooks. (Speaking of that, I've got a few too!).
Problem is (I would imagine) - that if you charge for it, they will just slip it back into the mainstream forum. Oh well - Somtam will come up with a solution I guess!
#81 busylizzy has been a member since 31/12/2007. Location: New Zealand. Posts: 2,152
Posted by busylizzy on 11/8/2011 at 07:06
And.. while I'm on a mini-rant, I would lump the 'Companions' forum into that category, too!It would be nice to keep them off the main page too so that the main list of threads relates to those dedicating to sharing travel-related info.
#82 busylizzy has been a member since 31/12/2007. Location: New Zealand. Posts: 2,152
Posted by XxSMIL3xX on 12/6/2012 at 04:32
its really hard to get in the last page.can you please fix it?
#83 XxSMIL3xX has been a member since 10/6/2012. Posts: 7
Posted by Suturn on 25/8/2012 at 02:27
IP of the computer INSERT INTO tfish_user_sight_comments (locationID,userID,cTitle,cBody,rating,edited,deleted,commentPosted,ip) VALUES ('609','69765',
Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/create99/public_html/sight_comment.php:24) in/home/create99/public_html/sight_comment.php on line 121
This is the error it gives me everytime I try to add a review on Travelfish.
Is it possible to fix it??
Besides, I think it would be nice to add a Ethics section in the forum and link it directly on the main page. I think Ethics is something separated from politics and I think there would be much to discuss, from giving money to child beggars to riding elephants and so. It would be really nice to see it in a caring community such as TF.
#84 Suturn has been a member since 14/4/2012. Location: Italy. Posts: 28
Posted by somtam2000 on 25/8/2012 at 21:09 admin
Thanks for pointing that out - fixed now.
Will think about the ethics one - thanks for the suggestion. :)
#85 somtam2000 has been a member since 21/1/2004. Location: Indonesia. Posts: 8,062
Posted by Suturn on 8/9/2012 at 01:08
Thank you Somtam.
Also when I copy paste from another website it reports [color RGB...] is there anyway to remove it??
#86 Suturn has been a member since 14/4/2012. Location: Italy. Posts: 28
Posted by busylizzy on 8/9/2012 at 02:51
Click on the HTML button just above the box where you are typing your post. This will show the html form - delete everything in square brackets.
Alternatively, type your post (or cut and paste) into a plain text editor (eg Wordpad) which loses the formatting, then cut and paste it into your TF post.
#87 busylizzy has been a member since 31/12/2007. Location: New Zealand. Posts: 2,152
Posted by SBE on 23/9/2012 at 16:54
Re the often mentioned annoyance of being timed out when posting a message. I used to get a pop up saying I needed to be logged in to post a message.
Now I get this as well:
Warning: require(include_files/header_includes.php) url=https://www.travelfish.org/board/function.require]function.require[/url: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /home/create99/public_html/include_files/layout_functions.php on line 2285
Fatal error: require() url=https://www.travelfish.org/board/function.require]function.require[/url: Failed opening required 'include_files/header_includes.php' (include_path='.:/usr/lib/php:/usr/local/lib/php:') in /home/create99/public_html/include_files/layout_functions.php on line 2285
Above all this incomprehensible gobbledygook it says I need to be logged in (in small print) even though I AM logged in according to what's written at the top of the page.
How come the main page keeps me logged in and the reply box doesn't? If I want to repost the message I have to log OUT first so that I can log in again.
When it says you're logged in at the top of the page it's natural to assume you can make a post....because you are logged in. You're allowed to spend as long as you like writing an answer providing you haven't logged yourself out and there's absolutely no warning when you've been timed out. You just lose everything the minute you hit the preview button. Your message doesn't get automatically saved so that you can post it once you've logged out and back in again. Even hotmail automatically saves messages, isn't there any way at all for TF to do it?
And can't someone write some instructions somewhere explaining how to circumvent known TF bugs/quirks rather than expecting newbies to discover them all by themselves and unnecessarily wasting their time? Why is there no mention of a time limit for posting replies somewhere on the answer box for example? Where does it say never hit the back button or a link while replying? (Because you'll lose your message if you do). Why doesn't it say to always save long detailed messages that have taken a long time to write BEFORE trying to "preview" them?
I think the assumption that nobody will ever need more than an hour to reply is a bit like Gates saying 640K of memory should be enough for anybody. As CaptainBob pointed out, many people multitask and have other things to attend to at the same time: phones ring, dinners burn, kids try and kill each other or set the house on fire. How many people read TF while at work? "Sorry boss that'll have to wait, I've got a TF deadline here!". And the more time and effort you spend on your reply, the more likely it'll all be a total waste of time....why bother?
I still don't understand why it's even necessary to have a time limit for replies anyway. Can't a spambot manage to cause total havoc if you give it an hour? If it's that slow then that means it can't attack more than 24 sites a day and the chance of it choosing this one out of millions is pretty slim!
#88 SBE has been a member since 14/4/2008. Location: Global Village. Posts: 2,055
Posted by somtam2000 on 23/9/2012 at 19:28 admin
OK, I've fixed that error - thanks for pointing it out.
I'm not quite sure why you're getting the logged in up top as normally, if you're not logged in, when you go to enter a reply, you should see something like this -- which should stop you from entering a message and then getting the error on the "preview" page (which I assume was what was throwing the error above).
The session time-out time is set to an hour, and that can be over-ridden in the Member Section by changing the option to remember you are logged in -- though I think you mentioned elsewhere that didn't work for you, but I wasn't able to recreate the problem.
We have a maximum logged in time because people use the site in a public internet cafe etc and may forget to logout when they are done -- this way it doesn't matter.
If you're writing a long reply that is going to take you longer than an hour, you've got two options - either write the answer elsewhere (in some other text program like Notepad) and copy it in when you're done; or, write it in TF and right click another link to open a page to keep you logged in (each time you open a page the hour timeout resets), Personally I use the first option as I find the text box on TF small to type in, but individual mileage will vary.
#89 somtam2000 has been a member since 21/1/2004. Location: Indonesia. Posts: 8,062
Posted by SBE on 24/9/2012 at 15:22
but I wasn't able to recreate the problem.
You obviously weren't trying very hard then Somtam... it's dead easy, even I can do it! ;-)
I checked my personal profile after what you'd said (and promptly lost everything I'd already written in the reply box of course...duh) and it looks like the always logged in function has been enabled. I can't remember when I enabled it but until now (?) it's had absolutely no effect on the time limit for posting, other than to shorten it perhaps. I know I was getting less than an hour because I did an experiment and hit the preview button exactly 59 minutes after logging in yesterday and the post was no longer there.
I've found another method of saving messages from oblivion BTW. Before previewing, right click mouse, select all and copy. Then hit the preview button. If you find you've been logged out, all you have to do is log in again and paste your message back into the reply box.
It's simpler to do and saves farting around with notepad and opening pages. I've learned that opening other pages when posting replies is best avoided because if you do anything that takes you to a different page (eg hit the back button or a link in an answer, check your profile or click on an ad) then you will lose everything in the reply box and have to start all over again.
#90 SBE has been a member since 14/4/2008. Location: Global Village. Posts: 2,055
Posted by SBE on 24/9/2012 at 15:38
PS. I did another experiment today. Logged in, started writing the above reply and then wandered off for several hours. Came back and finished the post and then clicked preview (having taken the precaution of saving it first of course).
Of course, as soon as I hit the preview button, a page came up saying I'd been logged out. (See how easy it is to recreate problems?)
I'm glad to report that you successfully fixed the error message (it no longer appears) but I'd still like to know how long you're supposed to stay logged in when you select the "always logged in" option in your profile. My understanding of the word "always" is longer than a few hours!
#91 SBE has been a member since 14/4/2008. Location: Global Village. Posts: 2,055
Posted by somtam2000 on 24/9/2012 at 17:57 admin
SBE: I last logged in probably a month ago. I just woke up, opened the laptop, went to Travelfish, was still logged in from last night, read your message, typed in a reply...
#92 somtam2000 has been a member since 21/1/2004. Location: Indonesia. Posts: 8,062
Posted by somtam2000 on 24/9/2012 at 17:59 admin
... and it went through fine :)
All I can think is you have settings on your laptop/browser to ditch cookies or something like that -- do you?
#93 somtam2000 has been a member since 21/1/2004. Location: Indonesia. Posts: 8,062
Posted by celineventura on 26/9/2012 at 08:57
just passin by :)
#94 celineventura has been a member since 26/9/2012. Posts: 1
Posted by SBE on 26/9/2012 at 10:03
Could be cookies... I do tend to clear the firefox cache every day because someone told me it was a good thing to do when I had another slight technical problem once.
Will do some more experiments.... :-)
#95 SBE has been a member since 14/4/2008. Location: Global Village. Posts: 2,055
Posted by SBE on 27/9/2012 at 03:59
Not cookies. The log in box remembers my user name when I have to log in again so it must be keeping cookies.
I reckon you can stay logged in because you have special admin privileges!
#96 SBE has been a member since 14/4/2008. Location: Global Village. Posts: 2,055
Posted by busylizzy on 27/9/2012 at 04:15
Nah.... I stay logged in too - both both my home computer and the work one. Wonder if it's a Firefox thing - that bloody always seems to give you grief!
#97 busylizzy has been a member since 31/12/2007. Location: New Zealand. Posts: 2,152
Posted by altmtl on 28/9/2012 at 10:11
noticed my thumbnail and other people's don't show up anymore, just a ?
#98 altmtl has been a member since 18/5/2009. Location: Canada. Posts: 1,003
Posted by thaibeachlovers on 3/2/2013 at 04:09
Why can't I send a PM? I get a message saying PMs not enabled.
Sorry if it's somewhere, but I can't see it.
#99 thaibeachlovers has been a member since 25/5/2006. Posts: 38
Posted by thaibeachlovers on 3/2/2013 at 04:51
Hold the phone! I just found out how to PM.
#100 thaibeachlovers has been a member since 25/5/2006. Posts: 38
Posted by somtam2000 on 3/2/2013 at 21:01 admin
Just for anyone else wondering, Private Messaging is disabled by default. You need to enable it both to send and/or receive private messaging. You can do this by:
a) Login to Travelfish
b) Click on Member Centre (link top right of the page)
c) Select Profile, then Edit profile, from the navigation on the left on the Member centre page
d) Under "Settings" change Messaging from "disabled (default)" to "enabled"
You should be in business, but if you're not, let me know!
#101 somtam2000 has been a member since 21/1/2004. Location: Indonesia. Posts: 8,062
Posted by Captain_Bob on 5/1/2015 at 12:00
First of all, Happy New Year TF =)
Scrolling back to my post a few years ago on this thread, this is still what I respectfully consider a slightly inconvenient and perhaps easily-resolved feature: Opening links in same/new tab.
Clicking URL links takes you out of TF in the same tab instead of spawning a new tab which I dare say is more conventional behaviour. Yes I can thoughtfully right-click (with a conventional mouse) and specify open in new tab, but how about making "new tab" the default for external links?
#102 Captain_Bob has been a member since 27/5/2006. Location: Thailand. Posts: 1,955
Posted by Captain_Bob on 5/1/2015 at 13:00
And maybe remove the timeout 1-hour, etc. Let us edit as an after thought.
#103 Captain_Bob has been a member since 27/5/2006. Location: Thailand. Posts: 1,955
Posted by Thefinebalance on 4/8/2015 at 07:45
SO I am able to post on already available threads, but for some reason, something on the site doesnt allow me to post new threads/forum questions....is there a way to verify my email so I can do this please?
Thank you in advance!
#104 Thefinebalance has been a member since 9/1/2015. Posts: 21
Posted by somtam2000 on 4/8/2015 at 09:11 admin
Hmmm that's a new one!
Can you give me a bit more info please? Does the page not load fully, or do you get an error message or what? Your account is already activated, so not an email issue.
#105 somtam2000 has been a member since 21/1/2004. Location: Indonesia. Posts: 8,062
Posted by Thefinebalance on 4/8/2015 at 10:27
I'll go through creating a new post/forum topic and ill go throught he process of posting. once ive sent the post through, i get a message saying "hmmm looks like theres's a bit of an issue with your post and we will have to look at it at bit more closely before posting....unless you're a robot/spam, and if thats the case, you could be waiting a very long time...."
#106 Thefinebalance has been a member since 9/1/2015. Posts: 21
Posted by somtam2000 on 4/8/2015 at 16:45 admin
Ha ha - you should know not to be wearing an R2D2 tshirt when using Travelfish!
So, when you enter a post, you get to the preview screen right?
and then when you submit it you get the error?
If so, is the above the exact error you see? I ask because it sounds very similar to a canned error I wrote for forum spam, but isn't exactly the same, so I'm not sure what is going on.
Thanks & apols for the trouble.
#107 somtam2000 has been a member since 21/1/2004. Location: Indonesia. Posts: 8,062
Posted by Thefinebalance on 4/8/2015 at 17:37
@somtam2000 it's not exactly That but Similar! Not sure what to do .... Maybe it's because my email address is not the typical gmail or hotmail account.
#108 Thefinebalance has been a member since 9/1/2015. Posts: 21
Posted by somtam2000 on 4/8/2015 at 18:11 admin
Ok, can we try this:
Try to add a new post, with the title: "Test post for Travelfish"
and the text of the post: "Travelfish forum bugs drive me nuts."
If that doesn't work, please post (in this thread) the error you get.
This isn't an email related problem.
#109 somtam2000 has been a member since 21/1/2004. Location: Indonesia. Posts: 8,062
Posted by Thefinebalance on 6/8/2015 at 08:00
so i got this message
About us forum Adding your post right now... Your post has been flagged for review
Your post has been flagged for a manual review -- this shouldn't take too long, though if you happen to be a spammer, it could well take a very, very long time.
#110 Thefinebalance has been a member since 9/1/2015. Posts: 21
Posted by SBE on 30/8/2016 at 23:02
After editing, smileys become gigantic and inserted links revert to plain text with URLs at each end (or whatever the correct technical term is). Also my paragraph spacing seems to get very wide and makes the post take up an unnecessary amount of page space.
Whenever I do an edit and then have to RE-edit to correct the spacing and then RE-edit yet again because I forgot to delete and redo any smileys and links, the paragraph spacing seems to stay put the second time.
#111 SBE has been a member since 14/4/2008. Location: Global Village. Posts: 2,055
Posted by gecktrek on 31/8/2016 at 02:03
hey, i have noticed a couple of bugs. when i try the search function on the main travelfish page i get this page with message saying 'loading' but no results come back... secondly, when will the mapping feature be back up and running?
#112 gecktrek has been a member since 24/3/2013. Location: Australia. Posts: 171
Posted by SBE on 31/8/2016 at 21:24
Another bug I've noticed is that this 2010 thread is now stuck at the top of the home page forum even though there have been new replies posted lower down.
I know this thread is a sticky but shouldn't it be stuck at the top of the "about us" forum rather than the home page? Admin may see bug reports as a top priority topic but I doubt if new readers who've just wandered onto the site do. They probably just want to find out where to go on holiday ... preferably without having to spend hours digging around for relevant information. The site's a lot more user friendly than it used to be but people often still don't notice the links at the top of the page unless someone points them out. A sticky that tells people where the links are and what they're for might be more useful.
Also, unless they're blessed with a supernatural insight into how Somtam does his algorithms, newbies will not be aware that the forum has TF specific quirks like the back button and giant smileys . How about a warning link about known bugs next to the reply box rather than expecting users to waste a lot of time doing the TF learning curve through trial and error?
#113 SBE has been a member since 14/4/2008. Location: Global Village. Posts: 2,055
Posted by somtam2000 on 1/9/2016 at 10:55 admin
Ok I'm heading back to Indo in a few days and this, among other things, is my hitlist:
1) Where have been map thing (via gecktrek, I got your email, sorry have not replied, just been flat out on these stupid islands)
2) Giant smily face thing
3) PM linkage (via exacto)
Not a bug: This post being stuck at top on homepage is intentional - is how I noticed it.
I also ask, please, for a dose of patience, we're working with a very small hardass working team and our focus at the moment is tilted more towards some serious content issues (Why David and I have been on the silly islands for the last month) rather than supersized smily faces, but I understand these are also issues that need to be tackled.
Your's truly from a totally awful corner of Ko Samui
#114 somtam2000 has been a member since 21/1/2004. Location: Indonesia. Posts: 8,062
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