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Jungle trek in Cambodia with kids - can you recommend a trek

Posted by Joelle on 17/7/2013 at 10:59

Hi, we're in Kratie and we just dropped the idea of going to Mondulkiri province for a jungle trek with our kids. A pity certainly, but distances were too long and costs too high. In 2-3 weeks from now, we'll be in the south and we're now thinking about a trek in the cardamom mountains. Does anyone have recommendations? My kids are 4 and 6 but very good hikers. Thanks!

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Posted by gregmccann1 on 18/7/2013 at 06:38

I would contact the Rainbow Lodge down in the Cardamoms and see what the they can arrange for you.

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Posted by phuphum on 18/7/2013 at 20:21

Just google Chi Pat. They have a variety of guided treks. You an get there on your own or you can arrange it through a travel agency, although the former way is preferable. Homestays are available there as well.

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Posted by MADMAC on 21/7/2013 at 22:53

Do I have this right - you want to walk through a Cambodian jungle, over rmultiple days using unimproved paths with a four and a six year old? An afternoon hike over paths I get. A trek through a jungles in some remote forrested area where a snake bit means big trouble for a four year old, I don't get.

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Posted by sayadian on 22/7/2013 at 04:38

It's rainy season too. The paths can be pretty treacherous and can a four year old cope with leeches?

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Posted by gregmccann1 on 22/7/2013 at 08:03

I was thinking Rainbow Lodge might have an easy day hike (short distance, no big hills) to a waterfall or something so that a casual visitor could get a taste of the jungle.

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Posted by Joelle on 22/7/2013 at 09:39

Several days? No, not really, I think one day will be fine. A trusted organiser will probably be able to advise us on what is feasible and what is not. Thanks for the above mentioned names, I will check the Internet for more info.

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Posted by MADMAC on 22/7/2013 at 11:07

Well a Trek and a hike are not the same, but yeah, a one day hike in a place where it's organized and the path is well trod should be OK. I would think, though, that you could get a good rustic kind of feel somewhere close to Siem Reap (although of course there are a lot of tourists). I think 2-3 weeks from now will be the rainy season though, in which case... I would avoid the jungle at all costs. I did a hike up a local mountain near where I live in Thailand in the dry season. It was OK. I was able to move through the vegetation without too much difficulty. Did the same exact path during the rainy season and couldn't get 100 meters. It was totally overgrown and snakes and insects were everywhere.

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Posted by sayadian on 22/7/2013 at 20:15

Madmac
The rainy season has been with us for awhile now. I don't know where you get the idea it is going to begin in 2-3 weeks.
I've done plenty of jungle trekking in Malaysia in the wet season and I can tell you its not pleasant. The paths are slippery and treacherous. Falling can be dangerous because of bamboo shoots and thorns. I've seen guys have these things stuck in their legs. Infection sets in very quickly because of the damp. Leeches drop from the trees. It's a thoroughly unpleasant environment.

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Posted by MADMAC on 22/7/2013 at 23:57

Sayadian
My wording was poor. I meant "still".

Yeah, it's rainy season, and it's been raining a lot here every day. I'm sick of the damn rain. Haven't had a nice sunny day for a week. And even then it rained late afternoon to soak me when I picked my daughter up from school.

"I've done plenty of jungle trekking in Malaysia in the wet season and I can tell you its not pleasant. "

I haven't done plenty. I was still at the hikng phase (not yet having graduated to multi-day events) when I realized the jungle is not my friend. Back home (New England) where we have large pine forrests, it's not so bad. You can move through most of it without cutting anything away. There are plenty of game trails. No real snake threat. In the fall there aren't even any mosquitos because it's too cold (if it warms up though the blackflies can drive you insane). But here, in the dry season not too bad... but in the rainy season, ugggh.

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Posted by sayadian on 23/7/2013 at 02:30

Well if you are moving through primary jungle there is not so much parang (machete) use as the tall trees stop the light getting through so less undergrowth.
I guess with a guide erecting a shelter and using a compass on dead reckoning isn't necessary but you are basically walking in soaking wet clothes all day
I don't know if this woulf be fun for very small children. Maybe older ones would appreciate the adventure.

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Posted by LeonardCohen1 on 13/8/2013 at 09:24

"Well a Trek and a hike are not the same"

what's the difference?

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Posted by sayadian on 13/8/2013 at 10:46

I was wondering that so I looked it up.
Though both refer to a long walk, a trek is also classed as arduous.

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Posted by MADMAC on 13/8/2013 at 11:14

"Well a Trek and a hike are not the same"

what's the difference?

Trek is defined as over broken, generally unimproved terrain over a multi-day period. A hike is usually a day event (not overnight or multi-day) over trails or unimproved roads (or even roads). As Sayadian points out, it is more arduous and in more remote terrain.

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Posted by LeonardCohen1 on 13/8/2013 at 11:20

Multi day treks in Thailand are over broken ground and along dirt paths. You'd get lost walking thru random jungle trees and would take a long time to get anywhere.

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Posted by MADMAC on 13/8/2013 at 23:52

"Multi day treks in Thailand are over broken ground and along dirt paths. You'd get lost walking thru random jungle trees and would take a long time to get anywhere."

Bingo.

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Posted by neosho on 14/8/2013 at 09:59

The sidewalks in Thailand are treacherous enough.

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Posted by MADMAC on 14/8/2013 at 11:47

They certainly can be Neosho. They certainly can be.

When I pick my daughter up from school every day it's just a zoo. Somehow, we've gotten used to it. But it's marginally controlled anarchy - and the cops are there trying to control it. Alas, they have minimal success.

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Posted by redman123 on 25/8/2013 at 22:44

I don't know about Mondolkiri, but in Ratanakiri you could try Mr T. He has a website at lazyexploretour.tumblr.com and speaks perfect English

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Posted by Rasheeed on 26/8/2013 at 23:03

To clarify, as I was confused (not hard to do) redman is not talking about the Mr. T who owns Treetop and Riverview in Stung Treng. Who he's talking about is Vuthy (I never knew people called him Mr. T). Vuthy, though I have never been on a tour with him, is a good guy and an amazing cook.

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Posted by Joelle on 4/9/2013 at 14:18

Hi all,
thank you for you feedback, I started quite a discussion there. Sorry for my wording I should have been more accurate. Definitely agree that hike is more appropriate than trek :-)
Finally we went to Chi Pat, it's been a lot of fun. Thanks for the tip! Thanks for the other infos too, we'll try next time we go Cambodia!
Cheers!

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Posted by phuphum on 4/9/2013 at 20:35

Glad you went and had a good time. It's a great place. Don't worry about the discussion. Madmac and Sayadadadian like to sing duets.

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Posted by MADMAC on 4/9/2013 at 22:08

What's wrong wtih duets?

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Posted by MADMAC on 4/9/2013 at 22:10

And you left out Leonard and China - who's almost always in the mix too. So it's more like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s8nRL2bPCU

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