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how quickly can a location get ruined?

Posted by andrea13 on 24/5/2010 at 21:18

just wondering, since everyone says that as soon as its published in a lonely planet guide all the good things about a place can get destroyed. so, do you think if lonely planet etc says a place is isolated or whatever, that it will be the same 6 months later?

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Posted by Lother on 24/5/2010 at 22:52

Well, not all places mentioned to be isolated by LP get ruined. And not in six months anyway. In my opinion, this effect is more pronounced with single guest houses and restaurants etc. A guest house can sometimes really change a lot if it gets recommended by LP and starts receiving lots more guests.

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Posted by somsai on 25/5/2010 at 10:10

Usually if it's in LP, it's already on the map.

On the other hand whole provinces will only get a couple of paragraphs because they don't yet have a backpacker scene and no one will go there becaus it's "boring".

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Posted by wanderingcat on 25/5/2010 at 11:01

quite a few guidebooks have done a pretty good job of turning most people off Oudomxay town in Laos.

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Posted by SBE on 25/5/2010 at 16:04

When people use LP to find isolated-yet-easily-accessible spots that nobody’s ever heard of, they usually fail to take into account the fact that millions of other travellers are in possession of the exact same information.

Stands to reason that if LP does a detailed write up raving about some unknown new gem of a place it’ll quickly be absolutely mobbed with people looking to escape the tourist hordes.

The trick is to look for succinct one line entries in LP along the lines of...

This remote spot totally devoid of tourists is VERY time consuming and uncomfortable to get to (ie we haven't been there either) and we strongly recommend you learn the local lingo before going.

Like Somsai says, if it’s in LP it’s also on a map. The reverse isn’t true but how many people use maps to find out where to go these days.

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Posted by andrea13 on 25/5/2010 at 21:38

argh thats so annoying. one of the things im actually most afraid of (except, obviously, murderers etc) is finding all these places just for them to be full of tourists

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Posted by somsai on 26/5/2010 at 08:02

My cure for seeing tourists is the electric razor.

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Posted by Manticore on 31/5/2010 at 22:16

I rarely find places lacking tourists so when I do find a good spot, I tend to keep it to myself. I know its selfish. But what I dont wanna see is a quiet and peaceful place become another Khao Sanh Road or Vang Vieng.

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Posted by caseyprich on 1/6/2010 at 09:45

"quite a few guidebooks have done a pretty good job of turning most people off Oudomxay town in Laos."

. . . I think I might have done that too.

Seriously though - I agree with the idea above that looking out for words like "interesting" but "difficult to get to" is a good way to find something a little unspoiled.

For example - in Western Sichuan (China) the write up on Tagong Grassland, or the example of certain beaches on Phu Quoc (Ong Lang Beach/Thang Loi Resort for example) which are described as quite because they really are - and people who want to gather and party go to Long Beach while those looking for isolation go to the beach with fewer bungalows that is further afield.

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Posted by Sophia_India on 2/6/2010 at 18:13

I agree that once it is in the LP its pretty much ruined.
I went to Palolem in Goa in 2004 and there were no tourists, only a few places to stay and i returned 9 months later and there were loads of people. It just wasnt the same, and all in the space of a few months!

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