I have 12 weeks in SE Asia and want to see as much as possible however am aware that my route is going to be really busy. I dont mind this though as I am then travelling to Australia which I am hoping to take at a slower pace. So far I have thought I may possibly take this route:
Week 1: Thaintro
Week 2: Northern Thailand > Chaing Mai mainly and surrounding areas.
Week 3: Laos
Week 4: Laos
Week 5: North Vietnam > Fly over to Siem Reap Cambodia for a couple of days
just to see Angkor Wat
Week 6: South-West Thailand (For FMP and meeting a friend)
Week 7: South-East Thailand
Week 8: Malaysia
Week 9: Malaysia/Singapore
Week 10: Bali, Lombok, Gilli Islands and East Timor
Week 11: Bali, Lombok, Gilli Islands and East Timor
Week 12: Bali, Lombok, Gilli Islands and East Timor
I know this is a pretty busy Itinerary but any comments would be appreciated.
Also how long does train travel take out of time?
#1 Jess905 has been a member since 31/3/2011. Posts: 6
I am not really going to tell you where to cut from your trip until you do more research as to your specifics of going from one place to another.
Train travel varies but remember......this is SE Asia. Expect the unexpected. You have to travel to the station, ride the train, then get local transpo to your destination. Some days this is all good. Others, the locals want to price gouge you to get to your exact spot. A 4 hour train ride can become an 7 hour travel day easily if you are not prepared. Get to the station early to sort out any surprises.
Check out the 'Suggested Itineraries' in the Planning section of this site. There is some good info there (at the bottom of each itinerary page) about travel time between destinations - for buses, trains and flights. This will give you some good ideas - especially about border crossing options.
As a rule of thumb, assume each time you move location, expect to spend a day doing it! Also be aware that when you come back into Thailand overland, you will only get a 14-day visa, not the 30-day one that you get when you arrive at an airport. There are alternatives to this - like multi-entry visas that you can arrange ahead of time.
1 week N. Thailand, 2 weeks N. Laos, then 1/2 week N. Vietnam seems to be slighting N. Vietnam a little. If you're going to all the trouble to go to N. Vietnam you don't only want 3/4 nights there - considering visa cost and the transport issues of getting there from N. Laos and getting back away to Siem Reap.
Perhaps it'd be better to cut Vietnam out, fly from Chiang Mai to Luang Prabang , spend a week in LP, Vang Vieng, Vientinne area, then spend a week going down to Southern Laos - Savannakhet, Pakse, Champasake, Si Phon Don, then entering Cambodia overland from Southern Laos to head to Siem Reap. You can take those few nights in N. Vietnam and spread them throughout your time in Laos to take it easier, or add them to travel time from Chiang Mai to Luang Prabang so that you can do that part of the journey overland instead of flying.
Yeah I did not think about Visa costs actually!!
My Laos route is very similar to the itinierary on this website - just staying in northern Laos however.
What would you suggest regarding Vietnam and Cambodia - I have no experience of Asia at all so suggestions on where you would choose would be very much appreciated.
Or shall I take half a week away from Laos and add this to Vietnam/Cambodia??
#5 Jess905 has been a member since 31/3/2011. Posts: 6
Ps. I have already got my thai visa (triple entry) free-of-charge :) So sorted for that one! Just the rest of them to go!
#6 Jess905 has been a member since 31/3/2011. Posts: 6
I am different. I say cut a few days of Laos and head to Hanoi, see Ha long Bay, and get an intro to Vietnam. This will put in your mind another trip. I would also take off one of the bali weeks and do a little more in North Vietnam like Sapa. Another question though....? When, as in what part of the year is all this planned?
I fly to Bangkok 2nd of June this year...
The only reason I was going to spend 3 weeks in Indonesia is because I know that transport there can be a bit more difficult/slower than other places I am visiting? x
#9 Jess905 has been a member since 31/3/2011. Posts: 6