OK kids, when you go backpacking you don't have to fit a specific image OK?
Was at Big C today with the wife. I never go there, but I needed something at the computer store. Walking in front of me were two kids. They were wearing fisherman's pants, loose fitting cotton shirts, flip flops and... conical straw hats! They were carring very beefy backpacks with bed rolls on top.
For one, it's way too cold out right now for those clothes. Everyone around them had jackets and nit caps and the like on.
For two, they were at Big C in Thailand, not across the river in shitty ass Laos.
Why they hadn't left their bags at the hotel I don't know. Maybe they were getting ready to cross the river and stopped to shop first.
So just remmember, there's a time and a place for everything. Of course it's not against the law to dress like a dork, but, well, sometimes I wonder what people are thinking. Maybe they just don't give a **** what people around them - which I can respect.
"Thailand is never cold."
Are you kidding? Leonard, how much body fat are you carrying my man? When you trim down to around 5%, 10 degrees is damn cold. And it's kicking between 10-15 every night this last week. Horrible.
The title of the thread is a big misnomer.
#5 chinarocks has been a member since 17/6/2011. Posts: 738
Cold is relative. I remember tuk tuk drivers in Bangkok wearing sweaters and shivering because temps had plunged to 81 degrees fahrenheit (27 celsius). If these kids you saw were from northern Europe, odds are they weren't cold because their blood hasn't been thinned by years of living in the tropics.
Plus, they are just kids out having a good time on an extended holiday in southeast Asia. I know lots of backpackers who wear exactly that type of clothing in hot climates because it is comfortable, lightweight for packing, and washes up quickly and easily. There is a method to what you are calling madness.
Besides, MADMAC, aren't you usually the one defending people's right to do whatever they want (party til you puke in Vang Vieng or FMP, as examples), even if you would never choose to do the same. VBR.
Like I said, it's a free country, and they have the right to dress how they want. But it did look ridiculous. Presumably there was no intent to blend in with the "locals".
Well, mid-day, it wasn't too bad. I still was wearing a jacket, but I've climatized so the cold is killing me like it's killing everyone else here. Maybe if I had just gotten off of the airplane it would be different.
But it was funny. It was almost as if they had gone to some sort of special tailor and gotten their clothes made "Backpacker GQ". The straw hat was the killer. Whatever happened to jeans and t-shirts? That's what I wore when I was their age.
I'll give you that the straw hat was silly. But again, they are kids off having a good time. It does seem to be the uniform of the southeast Asian backpacker, but as I mentioned above, some of that has a quite practical side to it. Either way, more power to them for getting out there and at least seeing the world, if not exactly blending in with the local look. Mukdahan isn't on the Banana Pancake Trail either, so give them credit for being a bit off the beaten path and also understand that they'll stick out more in Muk than they would in Chiang Mai or Koh Samui.
Next time, maybe you can get a picture for us. Cheers.
"Thailand is never cold"
Obviously you haven't been in northern Thailand the past week. I woke up to 9 degrees Celsius last Thursday morning and that is down at 320m altitude in Chiang Mai city. Meanwhile up at Doi Inthanon (2600m) they registered 1C with frost on the ground. Two nights ago I went to see a movie which got out at 11pm and drove 10km home on the highway in Levis, socks, boots, three layers with hoodie and full-face helmet. Could barely stick the key in the lock to get in the house, shivering so bad. But then I'm not blessed with the invisible British beer jacket many people seemed to have on Friday night winter pub crawls when I lived in Yorkshire. My internal thermostat is set to normal
"Mukdahan isn't on the Banana Pancake Trail either, so give them credit for being a bit off the beaten path and also understand that they'll stick out more in Muk than they would in Chiang Mai or Koh Samui."
No, we don't get many backpackers coming through. A few, but it's not an ideal entry point into Laos. Most come in either up north or down south. Entering at Savankhet is the exception (although from there it is a straight shot to Hue and if you are taking the bus, the shortest route to Vietnam from Bankok).
Actually I am a bit surprised though at how few backpackers we do get. There are several places now trying to create an interest (Good Mook cafe, which now has an associated guest house around the corner from it, Bei Bien Muk, which is upscale but nice and right on the river with a good restaraunt to boot) but it's obviously a tough sell. What makes this place nice is the pace of life and the people - neither of which are apparently much of a draw except for the occassional travelfisher, most of whom I've met are all older and a touch more sedate.
Maybe they had been out cutting rice, or were about to? That's what I wore when I was cutting rice, and not by choice. According to the farmers, it's the only way to dress. I didn't wear any flip flops, though.
I went to the Good Mook Cafe when I was in Muk and they turned me away when I walked in because, they said, they hadn't opened yet ... but they were in the process of getting things going. It was almost 10:00 am! I wasn't even asked to wait for a few minutes. I felt like I was in North America and didn't bother going back.
What nancy boys. 9 degrees isnt cold and in the middle of the day its above 20 which is tshirt temps.
Unless you are up in the mountains Thailand isnt cold.
The human body isnt under duress unless it falls below fridge temps of 4 degrees.
Leonard, my body has been stressing all week and I don't care what the temperature is. Been thinking of putting a water heater on the ass gun.
#16 neosho has been a member since 13/8/2008. Posts: 386
Tilapia - very un Good Mook like. Service is one of their strengths.
"I dont get the whole dork thing. MM never wears shorts which would make him the dork."
A dork is like pornograghy. I can't desribe it, but I know it when I see it.
"10 to 15 degrees at night is perfect. Great for sleeping. When its 25 u need aircon on all night."
Perfect for sleeping - yes. Perfect for riding - no. Perfect for sitting and watching TV - a huge no. Perfect for sitting at Norees and listening to the band and drinking a beer - a huge no.
"Life must be slow and boring if 2 guys in straw hats is the highlight of the day."
Definitely not highlights. Training and dancing are my highlights for sure. But funny. It was very funny.
"What nancy boys. 9 degrees isnt cold and in the middle of the day its above 20 which is tshirt temps.
Unless you are up in the mountains Thailand isnt cold.
The human body isnt under duress unless it falls below fridge temps of 4 degrees."
If you are fat. If you are not fat, you feel the cold right away. I prefer Africa and do desert temps quite well. I am quite comfortable at 40 celsius. But the cold - I hate the cold.
You are soft for an ex army guy. Plenty of skinny guys walk around in board shorts and tshirt in 10 to 15.
That is not cold unless you are getting cold winds off the ocean and you need to be far from the equator for that to happen.
"You are soft for an ex army guy. Plenty of skinny guys walk around in board shorts and tshirt in 10 to 15."
Definitely soft when it concerns the cold. I can bear any heat, even enjoy it most of the time, but cold... I was stationed at FT Drum for four years (though thankfully deployed two of the winters) and boy did the weather ever suck there.
And yes, I was wearing a leather jacket on my rides home every night - it was still freezing. I hated it. Day time is passable, but nighttime. Just blows.
I Have 2 friends who happens to be both in CM at the moment in 2 diferent gruops and both their first message on facebook was; bring warm clothes it's freezing!!!
#25 lavalette has been a member since 25/5/2013. Posts: 12
Leonard, yes I'm getting old. My hearing sucks too, if anyone is interested.
#26 neosho has been a member since 13/8/2008. Posts: 386
"Millions of people live with temps below 10 degrees. It ain't that bad."
It sucks. Period. End of story. Not up for debate.
"Freezing at 10 degrees. Science has been reinvented."
It's a linguistic descriptive in this case, not a scientific definitive. You're killing me.